Hacker News Reader

Comment by beyondCritics | Hacker News Reader

For the informed nerd (e.g. read Elizondo first or Greer, Bledsoe) it should by now be established, that we have a serious UAP problem. Hence it's a good thing that all the incidents that were previously ridiculed and downplayed are now one by one reconsidered.

View on HN

I didn’t know who Elizondo is. I just read a little. It appears he’s been pretty comprehensively debunked?

By serious UAP problem did you mean problem with people claiming everything is a UAP, or did you mean problem in the sense of “there are lots of UAPs and we don’t know why”?

The transition from burning bush to UFO to UAP...

I wonder of we modernized our relationship to phenomena in technology and shift from spectral beings to extraterrestrial beings as a built-in problem of explanations, based in some simplistic reliance of cause and effect.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X2...

Yes, people used to see fairies a lot.

There are probably 1000s of reports of from people across the globe that are seeing very similar things that remain unexplained. If the evidence went to a courtroom, I think certain UAP “cases” would pass have a positive “verdict” based on overwhelming circumstantial evidence. However, science has a higher bar (as it should) so when we ask our experts what’s happening they have to say “no evidence” or else lose their credibility.

The debunking of each case of UAP I've seen involves a mixture of science and folk science. They're fairly easily debunked if your persepctive changes.

Some, yes. If you’re genuinely curious I’d invite you to read project blue book or read through nuforc reports.

But I get it. If I hadn’t heard some things first hand from credible witnesses I’d be more skeptical too.

For the records: I'm taking it very seriously and had this book in mind: Elizondo, L. (2024). Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's hunt for UFOs. William Morrow. The tone is very dark though.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/errors-in-luis-elizondos-uf...

Reply on news.ycombinator.com