There are a lot of humans that can’t drive a car (well).
Part of the problem with “AGI” is everyone has their own often totally arbitrary yard sticks.
Part of the problem with “AGI” is everyone has their own often totally arbitrary yard sticks.
"Most viable labor" involves getting things from one place to another, and that's not even the hard part of it.
In any case, any sane definition of general AI would entail things that people can generally do.
Like driving.
>That is stupid
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
I feel like everyone’s opinion on how self-driving is going is still rooted in 2018 or something and no one has updated.
I had anecdata that was data, and it said that full-self-driving is wishful thinking.
We cool now?
The world never ceases to surprise me with its stupidity.
Thanks for your contribution.
There's a difference between "I survived" and "I drive anywhere close to the quality of the average American" - a low bar and one that still is not met by Tesla FSD.
It's one skill almost everyone on the planet can learn exceptionally easily - which Waymo is on pace to master, but a generalized LLM by itself is still very far from.
As far as driving itself goes as a yardstick, I just don’t find it interesting because we literally have Waymo’s orbiting major cities and Teslas driving on the roads already right now.
If that’s the yardstick you want to use, go for it. It just doesn’t seem particularly smart to hang your hat on that one as your Final Boss.
It also doesn’t seem particularly useful for defining intelligence itself in an academic sort of way because even humans struggle to drive well in many scenarios.
But hey if that’s what you wanna use don’t let me stop you, sure, go for it. I have feeling you’ll need new goalposts relatively soon if you do, though.
Probable the biggest problem as others have stated is that we can’t really define intelligence more precisely than that it is something most humans have and all rocks don’t. So how could any definition for AGI be any more precise?
I said having to satisfy “all” the yard sticks is stupid, because one could conceive a truly infinite number of arbitrary yard sticks.
> Said one park ranger, “There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.”
[1] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/08/security_is_a...
Of course there are caveats there, but is driving really the yardstick you want to use?
In restricted settings.
Yeah no fam.
>but is driving really the yardstick you want to use?
Yes, because it's an easy one, compared, say, to walking.
But if you insist — let's use that.
Just like self-driving is going well on an empty race track.
>Good luck with that take
Good luck running into a walking robot in the street in your lifetime.
Look, a time traveler from 2019.
It sure must feel like 2018 was a long time ago when that's more than the entirety of your adult life. I get it.
The rest of us aren't that excited to trust our lives to technology that confidently drove into a highway barrier at high speed, killing the driver in a head-on collision mere seven years ago¹.
Because we remember that the makers of that tech said the exact same things you're saying now back then.
And because we remember that the person killed was an engineer who complained about Tesla steering him towards the same barrier previously, and Tesla has, effectively, ignored the complaints.
Tech moves fast. Safety culture doesn't. And the last 1% takes 99% of the time (again, how long ago have you graduated?).
I'm glad that you and your friends are volunteering to be lab rats in the just trust me bro, we'll settle the lawsuit if needs be approach to safety.
I'm not happy about having to share the road with y'all tho.
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¹https://abcnews.go.com/Business/tesla-autopilot-steered-driv...
the key is being able to drive and learn another language and learn to play an instrument and do math and, finally, group pictures of their different pets together. AGI would be able to do all those things as well... even teach itself to do those things given access to the Internet. Until that happens then no AGI.