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Either it's overhyped marketing, or Tesla has automated aggressive A-hole driving. I don't like either option.

In Sweden, Tesla is the new BMW. It attracts aggressive A-hole drivers, so no need to automate it.

Soon enough Tesla will be omitting turn signals to save on manufacturing costs

Can you ship some over here? Seems like if I want to get through a light before it turns red I find myself betting on the lane with the work van or heavy truck in stack rather than the one with the Tesla somewhere in the mix. In any sane world it'd be the opposite.

I think torque is what attracts (or provokes) aggressive drivers.

It's both. It's not the first time. Tesla recalled 50,000 cars because they programmed them to illegally roll through stop signs at up to 5.6mph/9kph [0]

[0] https://www.tesla.com/support/recall-rolling-stop-functional...

Good grief. Can't it just be whimsy? Must everything be a conspiracy these days? They have a tunable threshold for when the car will attempt a lane change. Set it too high and it makes too many and annoys the occupants. Set it too low and it fails to choose the right lane and spends more time in traffic. That's all it is.

They just named the low threshold case after a fun driving movie because joke. Is that really so hard to believe?

"Frunk" and the Telo's "monster tunnel" are whimsy. Playing DOOM on a parked Tesla is whimsy. Shipping a feature that implies the car will drive unsafely or illegally in an automated fashion -- from an automaker that has a history (see below) of shipping similar driver assist features with unsafe behavior and misleading or overly bombastic marketing -- that is irresponsibility, not whimsy. If it weren't directly governing driving behavior or if it didn't come from a company that keeps doing this, then maybe I'd give them the benefit of the doubt.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/tesla-cars-traffic-la...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-fsd-nhtsa-investigation-t...

https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-autopilot-risky-deaths-cra...

https://futurism.com/tesla-change-name-full-self-driving-chi...

https://www.jalopnik.com/1878905/ncap-downgrades-tesla-safet...

https://www.theverge.com/news/692639/tesla-robotaxi-mistake-...

Please don't Gish-Gallop on HN. None of those links are about AP tuning or "Mad Max" mode.

> from an automaker that has a history (see below) of shipping similar driver assist features

Must Tesla's actions be judged in a vacuum devoid of past context?

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