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They warned the gambling sites plenty of times. They tried legal action several times. Those sites were against valves ToS.

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It seems to me that they (Valve) are complicit. Don't they provide the API that those sites use?

I don't think they tried very hard to shut them down, they could be doing a lot more.

Edit: based on what I recall from this Coffeezilla video (https://youtu.be/13eiDhuvM6Y?si=GJ_kXOJyXFTogy40&t=476)

Isn't it the same API that users use?

It’s probably fair to assume that more than 90% of trading bots are not the kind of bots valve should support

Yeah but its not like vavlve provides an api specifically for them.

No one claimed that. The point was that Valve controls the API and can cut access to said API to the gambling sites. This is not like sports betting, where the gambling sites don't need any integration with the actual sport : if Valve wants, they can seriously affect the abity of the sites to function.

>Don't they provide the API that those sites use?

Yes, they provide the API that those sites need to function. That doesn't mean the API is exclusively for those sites. Just that Valve is the one enabling those sites, they're not completely independent.

Nonsense argument. They provide an api that players use, that can also be used by boys to perform trades. Maybe the problem you have with this is that they can do trades.

I really don't get what you're confused about. Yes, the existence of the API is good and useful. What Valve should do, if they really cared about stopping CS or TF2 gambling, is to limit access to this API for the gambling sites. The API should ONLY be accessible to individual players. That means IP restrictions, client agent sniffing, bot behavior analysis, etc - not trivial, and not foolproof, but also not exactly rocket science.

But they kind of do, there aren’t many other uses for the trading API

What do you think the users use when trading?

They do not use the public trading API

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