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Yes.

(And I say that as a Democrat in California)

It really does seem like folks on the right assume that people who vote Democrat have a lot more love for Democrats than we actually do. The whole Bill Clinton in the Epstein files thing is another example—like yeah man let him hang.

There's very little loyalty, there's some truth to the party being a bunch of minorities nervously huddled around the DNC for warmth.

Some people treat politics like a tribal sport where "morally OK" is determined solely by which team did it.

Their mental model of the "other side" is someone who is similarly team-driven.

These folks get really confused when "whatabout your team?" falls flat on people who want to live by principles or morality, rather than hat color.

It's also a rhetorical trick. The moment you admit "Yes, Bill Clinton should go to jail if he's on the list," they will start to pester you, "You admitted Clinton should also go to jail, so why are you only protesting Trump? You hypocrite!"

I think it's best not to engage. These people aren't here for logical arguments, and they won't be persuaded by logic.

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