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Comment by quacky_batak | Hacker News Reader

i hate the new pattern of using these magic strings everywhere. “use workflow”, “use client”, etc etc.

I don’t like having custom bundler logic for my code.

Custom bundler + telemetry already included. Smells way too much like Microsoft, too much like lock-in with a deal that gets worse and worse.

"don't use next"

"don't use react"

Please, bundling React with Next is completely foolish. React is open, battle-hardened, type safe, and well-documented, while Next is... a vendor lock-in trojan horse targeting low-knowledge developers with concepts that seem beginner-friendly.

I can understand making legit criticisms of React, no doubt the hooks transition had some issues and the library has a high level of complexity without a clear winner in the state management domain, but pretending React is peddling shit like "use workflow" is frankly low effort.

Just shows you how absolutely little people know about the web ecosystem - most people heard something once or twice from someone else and just assume its true - to make matters worse, you have the typical HN "vanilla html and js only!!!" bandwagon which, if you try to use for any serious web application will only lead you down a path of much pain and suffering. I've commented many times in many other threads that I just don't get it; I probably never will.

Mate, don't get mad at us just because you can't code without a framework.

React was created to make low skilled people capable of shipping low quality code. If that is the only thing you can do, I'd be careful about calling yourself fullstackchris

Mate, real programmers use assembly.

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