I have a ubiquiti 30w poe+ injector that somehow doesnt provide enough power for 20W aruba AP. When I plug it in a 120W switch it works unless the cable gets too twisted or something. I vote not awesome
What's your cabling like? Contact Ubiquiti? Looking at the datasheet, I do not see any IEEE standards listed, so they could be doing their own thing:
* https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/poe/PoE_Adapters_DS.pdf
You don't mention a specific Aruba AP, but their AP22 stuff lists the needed IEEE standard and wattage:
* https://instant-on.hpe.com/products/access-points/access-poi...
I'm not surprised they can f* up a basic PoE injector. The reason for doing passive PoE is saving a few bucks, on the back of safety and compatibility. Of course they would try to pinch hard on the PoE injector too.
Oh and I'd say they (together with Mikrotik) are responsible for 90% of the bad rep PoE gets. The IEEE 802 stuff really just works. And I say that having been part of rolling out 15000 people conference deployments with several hundred wifi APs in the span of a few days. The only real problem is broken cables, but the Ethernet link commonly fails before PoE is impacted.
Still being sold with 24V passive "PoE"
(It's 802.3af btw)
In the last 2 years they've released very few new UISP products and you're right that they continue to be passive PoE. I suspect this is for continued compatibility with their older product line. Upgrading from passive PoE to active 802.3 PoE requires replacing the injector and maintaining passive PoE makes it easier to upgrade. And the UISP product line is really meant for wireless ISP operators, not consumers, where the risks of passive PoE are smaller.
Anyway, I agree with the sentiment, but I don't hold it against Ubiquiti too much for continuing to use passive PoE for their UISP line, since I think it makes sense for their customers. As so-so work around you can get a 802.3 -> passive 24V converter: https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/ins-3af-i-g
I'm afraid that's not how it works out in actual practice, it's the other way around:
WISP devices are installed in random people's windows, roofs and chimneys. The injector might end up behind their TV set. If their TV doesn't work, they unplug and replug random things. Which will fry whatever has the unlucky pleasure of ending up on the output side of the injector. I'm unfortunately speaking from experience.
Meanwhile, people buying and putting up a wifi AP beyond their CPE wifi router tend to have a bit of understanding. If you told them to never plug anything other than the given device into the output side of an injector, it'd probably go reasonably well.
I did have issues with some of their other products - eg an old CloudKey gen1 that I had remotely in my parents place that I think ran out of space to the point it can’t update itself and can’t compact some old mongodb.