HLS requires on-orbit refueling. Anything from 10 to 20 refueling launches will be required. Did you think it required one refueling launch? The SH+SS stack will never be reusable or reliable enough to accomplish the refueling operation in time and on budget.
This means one moon mission will require the use of 10 launch pads and probably 20 complete stacks to even be feasible, because reuse will not help one iota.
Their upper stage reuse will never pan out. Sure they will catch a few, then they will remove the engines and stick the rest in a shredder for scraps to be melted down and recycled.
Elon's HLS is completely detached from reality. I won't even call it a SpaceX system because it's unlikely anyone but Elon came up with it.
Not that this actually helps with any thesis of "Yee Haw, look at Us! We're America! We're number one!"
* And now I'm worrying the initials might have been deliberate on his part; hadn't even considered that before seeing your comment…
>This means one moon mission will require the use of 10 launch pads
The refueling ships are to be launched weeks/months in advance, one at a time. If you look at the rate of Falcon launches this is nothing out of the ordinary.
If you were to ask Musk technical questions, he would make up shit like he has done hundreds of times in the interviews.
The definition of confirmation bias right there.
Every single time this exact thing happens, its the same story. Musk fans/conservatives get proven wrong, get quiet for a bit, and then act like nothing happened and repeat the same bullshit again.
The reason why that happens is because you don't actually listen to what he has to say. If you truly believed what he said was accurate, you would be able to repeat it, and explain why its accurate in your own words, without referencing anything he said. Instead, you are just simply an ideological fan of his, so no matter how many times he gets proven wrong, its not going to change your mind about him.
Overall in general, he and all the other conservatives have done enough damage to their credibility with straight up lies that are so easily verifiable to such an extent that, its totally fine to just discredit anything the say right off the bat. The onus is on them to provide extraordinary evidence if they wanna convince people otherwise.
That's just you repeating confirmation bias again. I am not an ideological fan of Musk. You just assumed so because I said that Musk was correct or competent in some areas.
If I said Hitler was a vegetarian (true btw) and that this is a moral act (also true), does this make me a Nazi? Of course not.
Musk is consistently wrong about so many conspiracy theories it would be laughable if not for the influence he yields.
HOWEVER, we must also be able to accept that sometimes he's actually competent at something. Those are two different things and can both be true.
> Overall in general, he and all the other conservatives have done enough damage to their credibility with straight up lies that are so easily verifiable to such an extent that, its totally fine to just discredit anything the say right off the bat.
See, the issue here is that this logic can also be easily applied to US liberals. You just can't listen to the biggest idiots of a given group and judge the entire group by it, and certainly not ALL behavior of ALL the members of said group.
Because liberals threatened white people that had dreadlock with violence, does this mean I should stop listening to all liberals when they say the sky is blue? See how this logic is crazy?
To make it clear: I am liberal. Not US liberal (I'm Swedish), but I believe in gay rights and the right of abortion for example. I also believe SpaceX is partially great because Musk has done an amazing job. I furthermore believe Musk has done horrible damage by spreading misinformation.
That’s absurd.
Either way, I’d personally rather today’s Nazis of all flavors to be dead. At the very least they seem a lot dumber than the old ones.