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I think it's unfair to say that I post this every time when I've only mentioned it twice before, with the previous time being 2 years ago. I don't have a grudge, I just recognize it as an easy to reproduce bug that disqualifies me from using the software. I'm not itching to get off of nginx as I already have a site that works, so I have no motivation to do extra work to fix bugs in other projects.

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Last year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39474419 and you also said "I have only brought this up once before on HN and it was over 2 years ago." in that same thread.

Still, only you and one other person with a similar grudge have ever complained about it (we've never had any github issues opened about it in years, neither on our forums) and nobody who cares has attempted to solve it with code changes.

I'll admit I don't have perfect memory of my comments. I'll also admit this is a niche feature.

Instead of poring over this person’s history maybe fix the bug?

Why would we work on something we don't care about, for free? If they paid a sponsorship, that would allow us (moreso Matt) to spend the time looking into it. Or, people complaining about it can spend their own time finding a solution rather than making noise like this. (Also - I didn't "pore over", I simply searched for "caddyserver.com." in HN's search and it turned up every time two specific individuals brought this up)

Ok fine, instead of poring over someone’s comment history why not enjoy some free time?

Because leaving comments like that unaddressed/unclarified does not serve the public reading this thread.

It's served this public to realize that there's obviously some serious flaw somewhere in the software that means fixing this isn't easy, or it would have been done.

Which is sad, as now I have to reconsider.

We've not seen a good enough argument that it's worth our time investigating. This seems like something that only affects something like 0.00001% of users. It may be simple, but it also means extensive testing to make sure any kind of fix doesn't also break other things. With how extensive Caddy's usecases are, we have to be careful with any change, especially low-level ones involving TLS and host matching. We could accidentally introduce somekind of request smuggling security bug for example if proper care isn't taken.

So maybe other people complaining are not using caddyserver.com domain?

I’ve seen people mentioning about dot at the end of the domain a few times this year. Also never knew is a valid domain and should be able to resolve. Some people mentioned before YouTube.com. Won’t load ads. But I think they fixed.

I've read every single Caddy forum post (up until some months ago where I decided I had to slow down for my mental health), every single Caddy issue in the past 7 years, and nearly every thread mentioning Caddy on HN in the a similar time span, and it's only ever been brought up on HN by exactly two people. I know the patterns and I know how to find those comments. You may be talking about threads not relating to Caddy, in which case I don't find that relevant.

Yes, I didn’t mean related to caddy. Just that dot at the end might not be so unusual like you said. TBH I don’t need this feature. I think it’s hard to be so sure only 2 people on hn mentioned this about caddy, unless you used a lot of resources to dig into it. To clarify I’m not against you, caddy is really amazing, just trying to be objective about it.

Caddy always worked well and recommended to other people. So I’m a pro caddy user, don’t get me wrong.

I am sure, because of how front of mind it has been every time it's been brought up (not just to me, but everyone on the Caddy core team).

We appreciate the recommendations! :)

> we've never had any github issues opened about it in years, neither on our forums

Looks like https://github.com/caddyserver/caddy/issues/1632 to me?

Yes, for Caddy v0, which is no longer relevant because Caddy v2 was a rewrite from the ground up. No issues have been opened by anyone who cares about this since Caddy v2 was released over 5 years ago.

It's ironic that you are bringing it up on a post about the toll that responding to issues is having on their mental health. I can see why it would strike a nerve if you do so on almost every front page post about Caddy.

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