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cf has to hire people with obsession not benchwarmers that only activate when someone yells at them because of a twitter argument. there i said it.

vercel only exists because cf got lazy. huge fan of CF, and if cloudflare had the attention to details that vercel has, there would be no vercel. fullstop.

CFs docs, repos, video content but also code samples, sdks (lol all the mcp stuff) usually is subpar to vercel's.

its really annoying that nextjs has to be forked and/or patched to work on cloudflare.

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CF isn't lazy at all. Their docs often aren't that great but it's because they seem to be prioritizing launching new products and features

Overall I'm quite positive towards core Cloudflare products like Tunnels, Workers, R2, KV etc, but a lot of newer products are often either thoroughly broken (e.g. Cloudflare AI) or unusable due to insufficient documentation (e.g. Email Routing).

After being burned a few times, I think I'm going to ignore any new Cloudflare product for 12 months after stable release. If their products worked as advertised, I'd be willing to pay considerably more. I think their commitment to the free tier is hamstringing them a little bit.

I also got burned and yes I also feel this way about it, i.e. AutoRAG has huge issues too, not to mention the whole MCP/Agents suite of SDKs...

Yeah I just use Workers and Durable Objects. Stuff like Queues built on DO is better to just use DO

Right. Cloudflare is an authorized man in the middle attack.

CF has strong tech core but some products are unusable.

You can see CF Pages had barely zero resources and the product got worse over time.

Lots of issues shipping examples from mainstream frameworks that work flawlessly on vercel, netlify or github pages. Now they removed support for something and I can't ship half of my "legacy apps". I ship everything on Kubernetes and just cache it with free cloudflare.

It can also be a strategy: they don't care about freeloaders devs shipping another app, they want the enterprise business.

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