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It’s not; most places that give you gigabit fiber will give you a symmetric connection.

Define most places? I know i dont get one (uk) and neither does my german friend or texan friend.

I've only ever seen one despite having used 4 different ISPs for gigabit, and that one was special. It was in an apartment i rented in a converted office tower, line was done via a b2b provider then included in the rent.

I'm in the US and most fiber providers (I checked a handful: AT&T, Sonic, Google Fiber, Frontier) all provide symmetric connections.

Aren't most residential fiber deployments PONs which generally do not offer symmetric bandwidth? E.g. 10G-PON has 10G down / 2.5G up.

Depends on country, its not common here.

Yup. Spectrum is Michigan will give you up to 2gbps down but not anything more than 200mbps up

Is Spectrum fiber or DOCSIS? I didn't realize anyone was pushing these kinds of numbers for fiber. What's the point other than screwing the users?

Penny pinching. Afaik asymmetric PON is the cheapest possible network tech at scale.

Nope. less than a percent of a percent. symmetric plans are extra cost and offered primarily to business.

almost all homes have no ability to exceed gigabit. infact almost all new homes dont even have data wiring. people just want their netflix to work on wifi.

I didn't pay anything extra for symmetric.

Most places do not have fiber.

We know. The problem is that the above comment said "extraordinarily rare" which is a very different and incorrect threshold.

This is probably technically true but very misleading. Fiber penetration in the US has been consistently rising for over a decade now and it is not at all uncommon to have either Google Fiber, Fios, or a local fiber provider available to you in a big city. I bet within the next decade most places will have gigabit fiber available.

The US is a big place. But the world is bigger. The internet works across the whole world.

There's a long way to go before fibre is commonplace across the world.

There are probably more English speakers using the Internet in India than there are in the USA...Let alone the hundreds of millions elsewhere.

You cant just assume everyone is talking about your country online.

Does it really matter? The grandparent comment states the bandwidth is becoming even more readily available in the US, while the article itself says the bots were largely hosted by US ISPs, and that's obviously enough bandwidth to already cause global disruptions. But that's just the source of the attack, and who is on the receiving end is another.

I get being too US-centric, but I think it's interesting if the US has the right combination of hosting tons of infected devices and having the bandwidth to use them on a much larger scale compared to other countries and possible implications.

You can assume the county when it is in the title.

>DDoS Botnet Aisuru Blankets US ISPs in Record DDoS

But for those that do...symmetric is the norm. The number of fiber connections is only going up.

symmetric is not the norm. the infra costs are not worth it. symmetric is primarily a business offering.

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