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> currently this is far from 'killing' non-appstore apps for most of the market.

It means that Android is no longer suitable for my own private dev projects.

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If it's for your own projects, for yourself only, ADB still works without this verification.

True, although using adb requires the use of the usb port, which for some of my projects is highly impractical.

Also, with this move, Google has made it very clear that they don't want people to have any real control over their machines -- so I'm not inclined to think that using adb to work around the problem will always be possible.

It's fine, though. My hobby projects will continue into the future, just probably without using Android.

I didn't think a usb port was required since the introduction of wifi adb?

https://www.androidpolice.com/use-wireless-adb-android-phone...

I know that this is how shizuku (0) does it and it is required anyway if you want to install multi apk applications so stiff won't change for most people then?

(0): https://shizuku.rikka.app/

Ah, I didn't know this was a thing. Thank you!

You can use GrapheneOS or LineageOS without the Google rootkit and continue installing any apps you want

Considering both Graphene and Lineage have been complaining about google making development harder and harder for how long will that be a possibility?

Play Store has an attestation API, Google could simply make it harder to run banking apps and similar if you run GrapheneOS. Something like requiring banking apps to use a stricter mode. GrapheneOS even mentions it's not easy spoofing this entirely as it change often on the FAQ page.

There's only so much you can do as a maintainer of a custom OS like Graphene before its too hard to maintain. I don't think there's enough coming in by way of donations to play catch-up.

Need legislation quick. But I suspect the EU doesn't want side loading either in the grand scheme of surveillance.

> Google could simply make it harder to run banking apps and similar if you run GrapheneOS

Thats the Banks fault then. I complained to mine and they removed the safetynet check / let you skip it.

My devices are not supported by either of those, sadly.

sure. now. why do you think google won't choose a way to destroy them in the near future?

Well with that thinking you can't use an OS by any corparation???

Its open source and thus can be forked.

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