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Do you have a single friend who isn't a programmer who has installed a PWA in the last two years?

I use 3CX VOIP app as a PWA daily, I'm just an IT worker.

Game streaming services like GeForce Now, Xbox Live, Amazon Luna use PWAs for iOS/iPad support, used by a lot of ordinary users. They're not in AppStore because of incompatibility with Apple rules.

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And I wonder when can we stop lying to ourselves pretending "web"-apps are real (native) apps?

Why?

Can you create and run a service that starts when phone is turned on, with a PWA app? Usecase is a backup daemon.

Does every app need to do this?

I make lots of "real" healthcare apps that are PWAs.

Much better installation and user experience, no dev cert nonsense, brain dead simple updates, no app store, etc...

Backup, file sync, and chat... very common and important use cases. Not everything can start with a user request.

You shouldn't need a service running all the time for chat. Just use push notifications.

There is a big difference between Websites and Applications. Websites are a smaller subset of capabilities.