What here has been reinvented? There's nothing out there like datastar. Htmx + alpine is similar, but much heavier and less functional.

And God forbid someone try to make open source sustainable by charging for largely-unnecessary functionality and actively dissuading you from buying it - as the devs do regularly in their discord.

And phoenix doesn't work with ANY backend language or framework.

Simple features? Making those imperative APIs declarative is not very simple for me, but you're welcome to not use those features and write them yourself.

A couple of things on the Phoenix point:

- Requires the adoption of Elixir and Datastar is backend agnostic - Adopting Phoenix feels more suited to greenfield projects, but Datastar is suited for that and brownfield ones. - Websockets vs Server Sent Events has been really interesting and nuanced

In what specific areas Phoenix Live View is so far ahead? Do you mind elaborating?

The unfortunate disadvantage of Live View is that you need to write Elixir. A lovely language, but it would be hard to sell in company that use only <SOME_LANGUAGE>. The hypermedia libraries like d* and htmx can be used with any backend.

I can't use Phoenix with Rails now, can I?