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I'd recommend this podcast to anyone interested on what ultra-processed foods actually are (and in general): https://sciencefictionspod.substack.com/p/episode-6-ultra-pr...

Spoiler: The science and definitions are... depressingly bad.

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The key innovation that the UPF category is bringing to the fight is that it is hard to innovate and lawyer around it with complexity.

Seems to be because the definition is arbitrarily shaped to fit the agendas of whoever is writing the definition. UPFs seem like the screen time of the 2020s -- an overly vague and mostly useless definition borne out of hysteria around a real issue in how people eat.

Arbitrarily defining foods that have artificial sweeteners as suddenly being ultra-processed is not coherent.

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