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You can still "win" by taking money from the other human players and minimizing EV loss against bots.

The major poker sites claim that they have really good (and very top secret) bot detection. I'm skeptical.

I used to work for an online poker outfit. The boss wanted weak bots populating the tables so that we looked popular. Of course, he had a “crack team” of bot writers for playing on “other sites” to make money, too.

The poker world would love to hear your story. It would be the biggest news in some time.

Might be another somewhat interesting perspective - not sure how filling in the details from my summary above could be big news. But sure, I’d write it up if it seems interesting enough to someone.

By and large it is not proven that bots exist in any large scale.

The operator running his bots would be a betrayal and probably end the business of the poker site involved.

This was early in the online poker hype. I worked there for about a year, and they didn’t last long after I left the company. Forum posts from when they were still in business showed players suspected bot activity. The company wasn’t all that big, and I’m sure the lack of player trust did them in.

Maybe it’s worth a couple hundred words.

Wow, is that really not some type of fraud? Fascinating.

Why wouldn’t you put the bots together at the same table if you could detect them?

Because when, not if, but when, you have a false positive and put a player in a room full of bots you suddenly have a massive lawsuit on your hands

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