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After Siri, Apple is now comfortable releasing half-baked products

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There is nothing note worthy about the iphone5. I tend to agree, it's a subpar product. If you compare it to 4s then it a little better, but if you compare it with any new android phone then it's mundane.

Stupid, baseless article, with a sensationalized headline to match.

Yes, I tend to agree. Both Mountain Lion and OS 6 are pretty buggy and overall less useful than their predecessors.

Other than maps what are the bugs you have noted in OS 6? How is it less useful?

TabBarController is now highly buggy. I had to put multiple workarounds into our app to get around them (figured out mostly myself and from forums).

There's no info on Apple's dev site about how to actually support iphone 5's new resolution. You have to figure it out from the forums.

It's less useful because they have removed google maps, youtube, podcasts from itunes (you now have to download a separate app), etc.

So you're having a problem with TabBarController. (I have had no instance of bugs in any of my existing apps using TabBarController.) Still a developer issue as far as I can tell, not a user issue yet.

Lack of support describing how developers use new hardware isn't a bug nor does it make the iOS less useful. Again, a developer issue not a user issue.

So the iOS is now deemed less useful by you because you have to tap "App Store" tap "Charts" and click "Install" on youtube, and podcast? Sounds like you are ranting for the sake of ranting.

A lot of people feel the need to complain for some reason but I don't quite understand why. I don't see a smoking gun. There are no broken antennas, and MobileMe didn't crash. Sounds like a company just released a brand new product and there are some small bugs to work out. Which it what I would expect, from any company. We all know Samsung has bugs, MS Windows 8 has bugs, Nokia 920 has bugs. When I got a Galaxy S, 2 years ago, I received an OTA update v2.2.2, it bricked my phone. It bricked a lot of peoples phones. They stopped doing OTAs after that. Then the GPS didn't work. That was sort of accepted as a flaw in the GS v2.2.2. I had to root my phone and run a third party hack to get it to work. The mp3 player had a button to view music by album but tapping it would crash the player. That wasn't fixed until much later, v2.3.4, 9months after google released it. Had to use my brothers PC, install software on PC to install sw update on phone. Ridiculous. Virtually no updates to touchwiz UI. Garbage! Calls were always dropped constantly. Then I got a GS2. It would crash... all the time. I had to reboot nearly everyday. That is sort of expected with the GS2, calls were dropped all the time. Text messages wound't come through on Google Voice. The control buttons on the headphones worked erratically but mostly not at all. TouchWiz is a disaster. Battery life was maybe 8 hours of standby. I had to charge to phone two times a day. The phone IS TOO FUCKING BIG! Trying to use the phone one handed, the thumb muscle would touch the screen before the tip of the thumb causing unintentional taps. These aren't developer issues, these are 'real' user issues. What droidfans aren't saying is that Android is rough, and they like to fiddle with it, they like to mod it and install patches, and break it and reinstall it, and fuck with it some more. This is why there is no waiting lines for Samsung products. The 'sheeple' don't like expensive shit that is broken. They like expensive shit that works. I mean works as in 'doesn't crash everyday, not 'boo hoo, the bridge in my maps looks funny [frown-face], this is awful I think I will go shoot myself!1!!'

I understand you are having a problem with maps but most of the blogs are complete hyperbole right now, and the maps are working great for me in NYC. Public transit was never very helpful by google maps because "public transit is underground!" Welcome to the big city. Thus no network connectivity. No one is having "real" problems with the new iPhone. This is all BS for the purpose of getting visitors to a shitty blog.

There were 8 stories about the iphone on the frontpage last night. What are complainers going to do when shit really does break? Just fill it up with complaint after whiny complaint? Until all of Hacker News is just 300 "this sucks" articles? THAT'S NOT NEWS!!!!

I tend to agree with most of what you are saying. I have a Galaxy Note phone now, and it's a pretty amazing device (much better than the Galaxy and earlier Samsung devices). However it still has it's annoyances, and you can't really use it properly unless you're a geek.

Yes, I'm mostly just bitching about iOS 6, it's not really too big a deal. Apple tends to shit on developers with their new releases, giving them a week to work around iOS bugs and get their apps approved. Users generally don't notice any issues because the developers like me bust their asses each time there is a new iOS release (we don't have a fucking choice, because users love their iphones/ipads :)

I agree that the ipad/iphone is a much slicker product in general than anything else out there. The Galaxy Note comes close, but is too difficult to set up and use for the average user (by default you can't even copy files to it from your mac, which is a major fuckup).

My main gripe is with OSX 10.8. Even after a couple of updates, it still completely hangs about once a week due to a bug - only solution is to hold the power button and force reset. I'm hoping the last update a few days ago will fix it, but we'll see.

As for tabbars, there are 3 bugs you need to workaround:

- can't click on some tabs on iphone 5 unless you set self.window.frame (https://devforums.apple.com/thread/166444?tstart=0)

- orientation changes screw everything up unless you set window.rootViewController to the tab bar controller.

- your app will crash if it's a landscape only app and you use a portrait-only view controller such as UIImagePickerController.

Sorry about unloading on you. You seem like nice guy. I have to work on controlling my troll.

No worries, you seem like a decent guy too. Nice site btw.

I've had very good results with iOS 6 so far (and I've been running it for far longer than 2 days). Even the maps app isn't "buggy", just missing a lot of data. However, since map data is on the back end it can be updated without having to update iOS. Since the early betas I've seen several large changes to map areas around me.

I hate to be critical but anyone who ever says "X is buggy"[1] without at least some examples loses credibility to me. It's a meaningless complaint.

[1] = except for /actual/ X. Someone who says "X is buggy" in the context of X11 is usually right. :-)

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