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I cycle a lot. Outdoors I listen to podcasts and the fact that I can say "Hey Google, go back 30sec" to relisten to something (or forward to skip ads) is very valuable to me.

Indoors I tend to cast some show or youtube video. Often enough I want to change the Youtube video or show using voice commands - I can do this for Youtube, but results are horrible unless I know exactly which video I want to watch. For other services it's largely not possible at all

In a perfect world Google would provide superb APIs for these integrations and all app providers would integrate it and keep it up to date. But if we can bypass that and get good results across the board - I would find it very valuable

I understand this is a very specific scenario. But one I would be excited about nonetheless

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Do you have a lot of dedicated cycle ways? I'm not sure I'd want to have headphones impeding my hearing anywhere I'd have to interact with cars or pedestrians while on my bike.

Lots of noise cancelling headphones have a pass-through mode that lets you hear the outside world. Alternatively, I use bone conducting headphones that leave my ears uncovered.

yes i bike on chicago lakefront up and down is like 40 miles for me.

also biking on roads you should never count on sounds to guide you. you should always use vision. for example, making a left you have to visually establish that driver coming straight has made eye contact with you or atleast looked at you.

can you share a example of how you are using sound to help you ride bikes with other vehicles on the road? are you maybe talking about honking? that. you will hear over podcasts.

The sound of a revving engine is often the first warning you have that someone is about to pass you and especially how they handle it is a good sign of how likely they are to attempt a close pass rather than overtake in the legal manner with the minimum distance.

Mirrors let you see the overtaking traffic with far more time to plan.

Audio cues are less and less useful as electric vehicles become more popular. (I am a city biker and there are plenty already.)

Also the radar for bikes is great

Mirrors are great, but most bikers don’t have them. And even then it might still be your ears that alert you that there’s a car behind you (electric or not — I still hear them), after which you can keep tabs with your mirror.

I don’t understand why everybody’s so happy to discount ears in this thread. Haven’t they been vital to our survival since forever? Yes eyes are more important in this case, but I’ll take whatever sensory aid I can get on my morning commute..

That doesn't work for EVs. Situational awareness is important, don't rely on any one thing,

"don't rely on one thing, but also let's reduce the number of things" is rather mixed messaging.

Hearing is useful for safety.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bone+conducting+headphones

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/blue

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