-2.7% to what total amount?
+4.2% to what total amount?
This obscures the numbers. The climate doesn't care about improvement, only about total tons of CO2.
This obscures the numbers. The climate doesn't care about improvement, only about total tons of CO2.
> The climate doesn't care about improvement, only about total tons of CO2
Given how easily you pooh-poohed cumulative historical emissions in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45509432. The climate also cares about all carbon, past and present. Not just the carbon emitted by China specifically today on October 7, 2025, as you keep repeating. (Only current emissions matter, right? So even China's emissions yesterday and the day before are meaningless).
All of your arguments are extremely in bad faith.
I don't understand why you're doing this though. What do you gain? Is it just about "China bad"? Or about denying the developed world's responsibility for climate change? Or is it for the pleasure of trolling? Please help me understand what's going through your mind.
China is by far the biggest carbon emitter. People try to obscure that through "per capita" and "historical cumulative" figures and "percentage improvement".
The way people contort themselves to protect China, the mega-emitter is laughable. They improved 2.7%!! So they went from 31% to 30.92% of total manmade CO2?
You're not serious about the climate, you just want to punish the US/West.
By introducing a cheaper, less-polluting source of energy? If harm is cheaper electricity and cleaner air, please harm me.
> in favor of everyone else.
"Everyone else" is also going solar. Very quickly. It's cheap.
> The way people contort themselves to protect China, the mega-emitter is laughable
Pretend it's 20 countries. Then it's no longer the #1 emitter. Unless you're suggesting some kind of rapid depopulation over there that's all they can do. Btw they also had a one child policy for so long, so they've already tried rapid depopulation themselves.
> They improved 2.7%!! So they went from 31% to 30.92% of total manmade CO2
To 30.163%, assuming your 31% was even true. In one year. Don't lie about simple arithmetic. It makes you less credible about everything else.
> You're not serious about the climate, you just want to punish the US/West
I want the US/west to adopt the cheapest and fastest growing source of energy ASAP. I don't want more bowing down to fossil fuel interests, and higher energy prices, like we've seen in the past 2 years. The latter is punishment.
You're definitely not serious about the climate. Your arguments add up to "China bad. Even if China improves, China still bad. Any number about China good can be interpreted as China bad based on arbitrary criteria that I alone decide are important. Oh and I don't wanna do anything about climate because and it'll hurt me (somehow for reasons that aren't important) and btw have you seen how bad China is?".
Unless you're getting paid by the fossil fuel industry, I don't see how arguing all this benefits you in any way.