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For what it’s worth, the authors note that since this is installed on a phone, by the time CellGuard has detected a rogue base station, it’s too late anyway.

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These spying devices often do permit network traffic to flow through, so if deployed widely these apps could be used to report on where large-scale messing with cellular communications is taking place. The only way to stop this technology is to turn off your phone completely (and opt out of any low-power "find my" networks built into Android and iOS, of course).

faraday pouch for added peace of mind.

iPhone / iOS Find My function doesn’t require cellular data.

https://support.apple.com/en-in/104978#:~:text=If%20Find%20M...

Still lots of devices that have physical SIM cards and would be senseless if the device couldn’t be tracked if the SIM was removed.

I figured it worked more like an AirTag and pinged nearby devices.

That's my point. Apple and Google are using local BLE broadcasts that get uploaded to servers for locating devices. That means ICE can detect/count people in the vicinity by just monitoring the location network signals your devices will emit. For some devices, the location beacon feature will keep working even if you turn them "off".

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