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Apex Legends is at 20 IIRC (My memory is from 2-3 years back on this one tho)

CSGO was at 64 for the standard servers and 128 for Faceit (IIRC CS2 is doing some dynamic tick schenanigans unless they changed back on that)

Overwatch is I think at 60

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CS2 is mostly 64 tick from what I understand. The "sub-tick" stuff is timestamping actions that happen on a local frame before the next tick. So in theory the client feels perfectly responsive and the server can adjust for the delta between your frame and the tick.

In practice it seems to have been an implementation nightmare because they've regularly shipped both bugs and fixes for the "sub-tick" system.

The netcode in CS2 is generally much worse than CSGO or other source games. The game transmits way more data for each tick and they disabled snapshot buffering by default. Meaning that way more players are experiencing jank when their network inevitably drops packets.

That's very interesting. The CS2 netcode always felt a little brittle and janky to me, but I could never pin point exactly what was causing the issues. Especially since other games mostly run fine for me.

I also remember reading a few posts about their new subtick system but never put two and two together. Hopefully they keep refining it.

Worth noting that part of the packet size appears to be due to animation data, which they’ve begun the process of transitioning to a more efficient system. [0]

With that being said: totally agree on the netcode.

[0]: https://old.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1fwgd59/an...

It's actually incredible how CSGO was such a great game and it's been replaced (not deprecated, replaced!) by CS2 which is still inferior over 2 years after the launch.

CS2 while still has some rough edge, i think it's fine. I don't have any complaint with it, and i has been day 1 player.(but just casual)

CS2 is 64 tick under the hood, with interpolation between the ticks. In the beta, server operators could modify the tick rate by patching the server binary, but when that revealed inconsistencies (which was meant to be avoided with the "subtick" system), they hard coded the client side tick rate to 64 [0].

[0]: https://twitter.com/thexpaw/status/1702277004656050220

Apex being 20 explains so much about that game. Half the time I would be firing right on target and watch my shots go thru

Its strange Apex is 20 ticks… it is often as fasr as FPS get. Is it because of number of players at same map that is a lot higher than in other games?

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