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How hackers will jailbreak the iPhone 5

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    On something like a Linux PC, where you have full access to the source code
    and the ports on the back of the computer, finding a kernel exploit is 
    relatively easy

Something made me stop reading there.

Relatively!

Relatively easy.

I apparently stopped reading even earlier, when I got to:

> In the iPhone 4S’s case, the A5 SoC withstood hacking attempts for months — much longer than any other Apple device — before it finally fell.

In fact, we never found a bug in the A5's bootloader: Corona (the 5.0 exploit I helped implement) and Rocky Racoon (related 5.1 exploit) were purely bugs in iOS, and as of 6.0's release we are not much better off on the 4S than we will be on the 5.

(edit: OK, I decided to at least skim the rest, as I realized I should probably at least know if they said anything I'll have to deal with ;P.)

> The one glimmer of hope is that iOS 6 has already been jailbroken — but only on antiquated A4-based devices (iPhone 3GS/4), and it’s still only a tethered jailbreak.

So, iOS 6 is not jailbroken: the A4 is; this is a similar mistake to the earlier one, but in the opposite direction.

The reason this is bothersome is because I can tell you with utter assurance: if Apple releases iOS 7, and it supports your iPhone 4, we will be able to jailbreak it, and it won't even take much effort; I don't even need to see iOS 7: I can tell you that today.

It is thereby not at all interesting that we have a jailbreak for iOS 6 on these older devices, and doesn't offer forward any kind of "glimmer of hope" ;P.

Ah, thanks for the info; will update the story.

You edited! So I will edit too!

Thanks for the background info on the iOS 6 jailbreak.

Btw, have we met before? I recognise your name...

> Btw, have we met before? I recognise your name...

Are you really asking that question after writing an article on iOS jailbreaking?

Extremetech.com has never prided itself on in-depth journalism.

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I hope everything works out for them. Jailbreaking makes the iOS experience 100x better.

I hope it doesn't. Apple needs to stop taking credit for the jailbroken ecosystem, even though they're doing whatever they can to hinder it.

"I don't buy an iPhone because they're locked and I think we need to support open devices." "Who cares, just get one and jailbreak it."

Apple needs to stop taking credit

How are they taking credit for the jailbroken ecosystem? I've never heard Apple once mention jailbreaking in any marketing context. (Really, in any official context at all.)

They're making money from increased product sales from people who otherwise wouldn't have bought an iPhone.

Making money's far different from taking credit. They'd be taking credit if they claimed responsibility for the jailbreak ecosystem; as it stands, they're simply gaining some very marginal benefit and, at the same time, actively trying to crush that ecosystem.

How about how they take credit for inventing the appstore, even though jailbreakers had a thriving app marketplace before you could install anything besides the default apps on the first iPhone/iPod touch?

If you want to get worked up over that, sure. I won't question that assertion. I'll just point out that other platforms had "app stores" before even the iOS jailbreakers.

If there's no jailbreak available for the iPhone 5 in the next year or so I might find myself buying a non-Apple smartphone for the first time ever.

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