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Comment by bigyabai | Hacker News Reader

> Otherwise, PGP might become cool

People need convenient access to PGP. If their App Store removes all PGP apps then they might have to upload their privatekey to a PWA. And then no one's any better off.

If the everyman is forced to choose between being surveilled or using PGP, I reckon I know what he'd choose regardless.

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https://autocrypt.org

There's no reason email clients can't make PGP keys easy, proton actually makes it quite easy to add a PGP key for an email address.

Does Proton allow you to use any email client? Last I checked IMAP and SMTP is disabled and you're captive in their webmail or official client unless you pay for their bridge software.

Which makes this post ironic https://proton.me/blog/what-is-an-email-client

I use Thunderbird to access my Proton Mail. They have an app called Proton Mail Bridge that allows you to access it via IMAP or SMTP.

https://proton.me/mail/bridge

Edit: Missed the paid part in you message. Yeah, I have a paid account.

Nobody ever talks about S/MIME, but it's the corporate version of PGP/GPG for mail. Apple made it dead easy to use S/MIME encryption. Most vendors do, because it's still a requirement for some government purchasing (DoD is moving away from it). I was honestly and pleasantly surprised how easy it was to use S/MIME with the built-in mail programs on macOS and iOS/iPadOS, and I'm a bit surprised that Apple didn't just automate an S/MIME key for every iCloud mail user.

What's the new standard that the DoD requires for secure communication with contractors?

There's no reason Chat Control can't mandate scanning in email apps, either.

And what's stopping the government from forcing proton to hand over private keys or else?

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