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> Killing 736 Israeli civilians, 79 foreign nationals, and 379 Israeli military and security personnel, and kidnapping an additional 250 civilians is not, by any fathomable definition, genocide. It is a war crime for sure, but it's not genocide.

I think the evidence is quite overwhelming that Hamas had clear genocidal intent, even if they did not have the means to accomplish that intent.

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Something I try to explain to people is that HAMAS tries to kill civilians, but fails at achieving their goals, meanwhile Israel tries to avoid killing civilians, but fails to achieve that goal.

One of these is better than the other.

Weirdly, many people disagree over which one that is.

> Israel tries to avoid killing civilians

Did you read the article this discussion is about?

How could one cause a famine accidentally, without intent to murder civilians?

> How could one cause a famine accidentally, without intent to murder civilians?

There isn't credible evidence of a famine in Gaza. I'm not saying things are great(it is a war zone after all), but they certainly haven't gotten that bad. Look at pictures of Palestinians on the street in Gaza and compare them to pictures of people in countries where there is actual famine, they look nothing alike.

Pull your head out of your ass and start actually listening.

Maybe so. Genocidal intent is not genocide, by any stretch of the imagination. The shooter at the UK synagogue would love to be able to kill every last Jewish person in the world. That doesn't mean he committed genocide when he killed those 2 people and injured 4 others.

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