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Trump Makes It Clear They Will Turn TikTok into a Right Wing Propaganda Machine

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A Zionist one*

Ellison's stake and Bibi’s recent commentary. They’ve basically told the world what it’ll be used for. You need to reach a really broad audience to sell genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...

Let me guess; there is totally a genocide of Uyghurs in China, despite Uyghurs laughing at such allegations, but the genocide of Palestinians is totally made up, and all the pictures and videos were faked by antisemites, amirite?

Brigade away, but you’re misinformed.

Meta, speaking about censoring anti-zionist content: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2209316259518773&vanity=Mi...

https://www.facebook.com/reel/66556493302222

Like you said, Benjamin Netanyahu saying more or less at the same conference https://youtu.be/lPueSBhoryc

¿Por qué no los dos?

How much does domination of the media help vs hurt. In the one hand, it does feel like the culture moved left under liberals over the past 10 years, and part of that seems top down, the expansion of cultural studies in universities to everyone talking about privilege in 2024.

But or course, in the end it may have created more backlash then support for the movement. It moved some people more extreme but did it broaden the tent?

But right now the right has a pipeline of young men entering their political stream. Does that continue if all mainstream culture appears right wing?

The right can also push religion as a cultural anchor, where the left really doesn't. Religion seems to be very culturally stabilizing if the right can get a Christian resurgence going in the us

The religion of course being Baptist Evangelical Dispensationalist Christianity

Beggers can't be choosers, he has to find one that is both Christian enough to appeal to red Blooded Americans yet will also ignore all the extremely unchristian things he himself does and says

Maybe? But Americans by and large don’t like being told what to do. I think part of the movement against like rural broadband and to control social media is to try and control the narrative for the people outside of citied that they think can, sort of exactly what you’re talking about.

But again, Americans are pretty rebellious by nature. Look at the increase in anti-vax sentiment, we like to disagree with institutions, I don’t know that controlling institutions, even religion makes them appealing to disillusioned young men, like arguably the biggest strategic misstep liberals made was thinking they could control the narrative.

The interesting (scary?) one is what Pete Hegseth is doing with the military. Giving people a shared enemy? That could work.

Yeh, but don't mention Jesus. He was off message for current thinking.

>How much does domination of the media help vs hurt. In the one hand, it does feel like the culture moved left under liberals over the past 10 years, and part of that seems top down, the expansion of cultural studies in universities to everyone talking about privilege in 2024.

An alternate argument could be made that when we started to see a rise in pushback against corporations in the early 2010s (eg. Occupy Wallstreet) all of a sudden the narrative shifted towards 'socially progressive' ideology. Was that a manufactured narrative?

Now we are seeing a strong pushback against that ideology but in my opinion we are just repeating history, the young people supporting the right didn't experience the great recession and once they learn the pain of what the right brings to the country every time they take office, there will be yet another generation that will have been burned. The left just needs to survive these next 3.2 years. If they can make it, then there is tremendous opportunity for reform.

Far be it from me to tell people what to believe, but having lived through the early 2000’s, and seeing the type of people at the top of the Republican Party, it was bananas that anyone thought these leaders would be the “moderate party”.

Not rightwing. Israeli. Larry Ellison is the biggest donor to the IDF. Tiktok was banned in the US when the youth started to turn against Israel. This has everything to do with propping up Israel's cratering reputation with the youth.

The vote to ban Tiktok (for spurious "Chinese data theft" reasons) was pretty much the only bill to have bipartisan support in the last decade. Goes to show how deeply the lobbying influence is in US politics.

Have you read TikTok's ToS? The claims are not spurious. The amount of data collected for each user is extraordinary. It is enlightening that we are still even talking about it.

The TT "ban" went into effect in January, and wasn't enforced. Their data practices don't seem all that dangerous if they've been able to continue them unemcumbered for more than a year after the bill went to a vote.

The great western data collection business VS the ebil chinese spying machine

I mean the reality is that going forward it simply won't be permissable to let foreign governments freely influence your youth with whatever content algorithm they please. It's even open knowledge that China itself doesn't allow TikTok to influence their own children like they allow it to influence American ones. As influencing physchology and personal Ai algorithms get more advanced you simply can't let it be controlled by foreign, hostile powers. This was inevitable, lobbying aside, as long as TikTok has suge huge market share especially with children.

It'll only be permissible for foreign governments to influence your media moguls to influence your youth on their behalf?

Netanyahu is bragging about how they bought TikTok lol. This isn't about China, and it definitely isn't about keeping foreign governments from influencing our youth. Its the opposite! China was the pretext to get you to swallow another foreign government controlling TikTok.

Meta, speaking about censoring anti-zionist content: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2209316259518773&vanity=Mi...

https://www.facebook.com/reel/66556493302222

Benjamin Netanyahu was a speaker at this conference too: https://youtu.be/lPueSBhoryc

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