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Does anyone really think it won't pass?

It will, in one form or another. And after some time there are enough boiled frogs for further privacy invasive measures.

Every time Chat Control comes up, people do chime in and say talking about it like it's going to pass is 'alarmism', but every time it's raised again it gets closer.

The European people are being worn down, eventually those who want this will get it through - and unfortunately this kind of thing is extremely difficult to repeal (think of the children!)

In the legislative sense, it might eventually pass.

As has happened in every case so far (with increasing intensity and ease), the internet will route around it.

the internet will route around it

How will the internet route around client side scanning? Some here will not be affected but I suspect the masses would have a harder time assuming they are even aware that cell phones, Windows recall and Mac mediaanalysisd are performing scans. Most people do not install custom phone OS images.

> Mac mediaanalysisd are performing scans

Would this work? https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/u17hsa/please_help_m...

  sudo killall -STOP mediaanalysisd mediaanalysisd-access

If they start doing client side scanning under some law I assume they will put measures in place to fix anything the client does to break it so I think time will tell what will be effective.

> Most people do not install custom phone OS images.

They might start to do, if governments become so obnoxious with their surveillance, that it somehow makes life inconvenient for regular people. However, then governments will start to block the network access for "uncertified" devices and software, or even to restrict the access to general-purpose computers altogether. That's why it is better to defeat this politically, than to play eternal cat-mouse games.

why it is better to defeat this politically, than to play eternal cat-mouse games.

I agree but laws can take a long time to change so I prefer to do things in parallel but that's just me. I can be an ass at times.

It doesn't make life inconvenient for most people though. Even in places like Russia and China most people aren't running custom phone OS images.

Someone who needs to route around censorship in Russia today needs to be fairly technically proficient; I wouldn't say there's any "increasing intensity and ease", quite the opposite. The holes are getting narrower, and the effort needed to use them properly gets higher.

Of course it will pass. Think of the children

It might pass, but if it does, the courts will strike it down. Separation of powers still works in the EU.

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