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I gave up on humans and this system. There are no good experiences to be made with others. Everything is a transaction nowadays and there is no altruism. Believe it or not, I am an altruist because I dont care anymore. I dont expect anything from anyone, I dont strive to be happy because its impossible to be happy with the current state of the world (at least im not ignorant enough to try and be happy). I am nice to all people. I do shit for people all the time, but deep down I am ready to jump in front of a train once my mother dies. In my country the rich preach "WE DONT WORK ENOUGH!!!!" without any public response. People gave up, we are locked in a system voting for people that don't represent our interests. We are approaching doomsday without doing anything against it, because it doesn't generate money. I'm just tired so I LARP my way through life until I finally grow the balls to end it.

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I'm not disagreeing with you in regards to the state of the world, I'm addressing your suicide fantasies. Please believe me, I mean this is the most respectful way: please seek help.

I know right? I don't know what all other people replying to you are doing. I just play Cyberpunk, I finished it yesterday. I guess I'll play the new Dying Light next. Some people play golf. I don't know what other "happiness" there can be, though I am interested if anyone has anything to share that I don't know.

> I don't know what other "happiness" there can be

Playing Factorio or Satisfactory?

Huh. Are those factory building games really that good? I never tried, but I feel like I would get bored. It's like playing Minecraft in single player (I guess).

Obviously, this is very personal and YMMV, but:

They're some of the most engrossing games I've ever played.

Factorio is the only game I ever started a session with a friend at 9pm on a work night saying "just a couple of hours" and ended up playing until 5am.

They have this kind of bad side that they almost feel productive, too, where you redesign/rebuild something and fix a problem you had and suddenly the hours spent feel like you did something worthwhile.

I find them very fun and not at all boring. I almost entire solo them but playing multiplayer with good friends who want to play productively, they're even better.

> Are those factory building games really that good?

Factorio most certainly is.

In the same way Heroin is really that good.

> I don't know what other "happiness" there can be

Bro I can name like 20 games that are better than Cyberpunk if you want, your bar is really low if this is your standard of happiness

> Bro I can name like 20 games that are better than Cyberpunk if you want

Sure, go ahead. But I already played a lot of games, and I'm picky.

> your bar is really low if this is your standard of happiness

Cyberpunk is not that bad, I mean, it's definitely better than most AAA games that come out nowadays.

> I don't know what other "happiness" there can be

Doing the same thing but with other people is fairly universally baked into our psychology as a satisfying and good thing.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with leading a simple life focused on happiness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU0pZarehLY

Avoid the generalizations - 'everything ...' and try to think what the countless million other ova and spermatozoa who didn't make it into the universe at all would make of your despair. Let's predict your response 'they're the lucky ones'.

Why are you saying to avoid generalizations and then anthropomorphizing millions of gametes as hypothetical lives that would have an opinion on OPs?

Those two things seem extremely contradictory.

> but deep down I am ready to jump in front of a train once my mother dies.

I have a similar ideology to yours but I'm not sad like this because I'm not experiencing what appears to be clinical depression.

You should seek medical intervention, it saved my life and it might save yours, which is worth saving. Intervention didn't pull the wool over my eyes about how flawed our society is or how selfish neoliberal capitalism tries to force everyone to be, it just gave me the psychological tools to maintain enough optimism to keep me alive and having enough energy to try to make changes, even if they're small local ones.

> People gave up, we are locked in a system voting for people that don't represent our interests.

There are other ways to live. Just because a huge majority of people live in these systems doesn't mean you have to as well, plenty have "opted out" without ending their lives. You could find some people living alternatively through a Food Not Bombs chapter near you, or some other anarchistic or alternative living group.

The dominant social structure isn't designed for people like you and me to thrive and be ourselves and so it's totally ok to find other people like us that want to live differently and let everyone else do whatever bizarre thing they're going to do with these enforced ways of living modern society presents.

I understand your perspective, but it's narrowly focused on the ugly parts of life.

I agree that the capitalist system is sickening and that people are too complacent in general. But the fact that you think there are no good experiences to be had with other people because everything is transactional is alarming and a sign that you lack a healthy network of friends, allies, and lived cameraderie.

By the way, being nice is not altruistic. It's something you do to avoid conflict. If overdone it will erode your sense of self.

I think your gut feeling is spot on, but your response to it is maladaptive. If you want to feel joy in life again, get involved with people who acknowledge that the system itself is broken and who strive for revolution, so you can join them in your common goal and feel a purpose in life again. Those people usually also know how to party and cook great food in my experience.

Your suicidal ideations are not a sign that people suck, but that you need to find yours.

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