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Is almost like a foreign agent is in charge.

Yep, most things Trump does make sense if we assume he's a Russian puppet. Russia really wants to divide West, to keep world hooked on fossil fuels, and to undermine democracy everywhere.

The things Trump does *also* make sense if you assume he's not a Russian puppet. He also wants to divide Europe against itself, keep the world hooked on (US) fossil fuels and to undermine threats to his rule. He doesn't need Russia for that, but their interests do sometimes align and it would be stupid not to take advantage of it.

> but their interests do sometimes align

I think this is more likely than some 'agent' plot. These people do not really care about countries, but what benefits them and their extended family. As Italians would say: "our thing".

> As Italians would say: "our thing".

Ouch.

His personal lawyer and mentor was also a lawyer for the major mafia families in NYC and a known blackmailer and fixer, the student has surpassed the master.

There are plenty of other explanations that fit the facts. This whole "Trump is a foreign agent" thing is just like the "twin towers were brought down by the CIA" conspiracy: people don't want to believe their own country could be so broken as to let this happen, and so it must have been some planned action by a group they hate.

Broken countries are easy targets for foreign owned actors to take control.

Trump is 100% American.

I wish people who said things like this, or who believed that Trump is/was a Russian agent could see how silly and racist they look. America's problems are not caused by foreigners. They're caused by Americans.

The xenophobia exhibited by sentiments such as this simply demonstrate hatred and ignorance of the world outside of the USA, and demonstrate an incapacity to critically evaluate American culture and history.

Russia has puppet states and is actively working on building them. Russia is actively trying to influence elections in foreign countries too. Trump being suspect Russian puppet is not xenofobia, it is completely consistent with what Russia is and who Trump is.

That aside, US electorates has decided to award another term for Trump. FYI at that point Trump is not an unknown dark horse candidate anymore and he even won the popular vote. Last time a GOP president won popular vote was 20 years ago.

So it's very fair to attribute the so called erraticness to what American want in general instead of attributing it to Putin or other non American.

Or that foreign influence campaigns on social media are having a good return on their investment cost.

Completely consistent with what Russia is? Sure. With who Trump is? I'm not sure that I see it. Trump does not strike me as the kind of guy who would willingly be someone else's puppet.

Unwillingly? Sure. Being played? Sure. Knowingly being a puppet? No.

He acts like Putins puppet. I can see it both willingly and unwillingly. Trump admires powerful dictators and wants their validation. Putin is one. Also, I would not be surprised at all if there was unwilling component too.

I am not Xenophobic of Russia. I speak and read Russian and my partner is Russian. I also don’t hate the world outside of the USA. In have lived in that world for more than ten years. I simply think that trump is a patsy. Whether he knows he is or not doesn’t matter. Putin plays him like a fiddle.

That being said, I absolutely completely agree with you that American problems are caused by Americans.

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