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Labour is down really bad in the polls [1] and they need to score political points at least with left-wing voters who are currently split. This doesn't actually change anything on the ground especially as the UK is still arming Israel [2].

In the end, they might just end up tanking more in the polls as they end up having no consistent values.

[1] https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/

[2] https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-...

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Macron wants France to recognize a palestinian state as well.

His party lost the last legislative elections. Polls show 78% against recognizing palestinian statehood NOW and without conditions.

He is totally illegitimate in doing so.

He's still going to do it.

Which polls ?

This one from june[0]. 78% that are against recognizing a Palestinian state now, emphasis on now.

0: https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/exclusif-reconnaissance-d-un-et...

FWIW: Polling showed American support for interracial marriages was still underwater in 1992, decades after the Loving ruling. Majortity support only happened on the mid-to-late 90s

You do what you want in the US, but I prefer my country to be a democracy.

You have a parlementaire democratie, so do I. It is not illegitimate for a democraticly elected official to do something within his legal rights that is against the opinion of the people. Doesn't matter wether he "lost" the election, he still won it more than you. You calling it illegitimate is more illegitimate than what Macron is doing.

No he didn't. He lost the election and as a result we don't have any government able to get a majority at the Assemblée Nationale.

Which is why he should refrain from acting such a strong policy shift and what could be perceived as a major change of alliance.

What would be equivalent would be Trump deciding to change a long standing geopolitical policy after he lost the mid-terms and without the US congress having any voice in the matter.

That's not what illegitimate means. Polls are no legitimate basis for policy.

No, but losing the legislative elections does.

The polls just reinforce the issue.

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