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Don’t rule out Tesla’s Robotaxi. I’m 10 rides in (Bay Area— around SF proper), and it’s clean, cheap, and efficient. As good or better than Waymo.

IMO: - Tesla is pushing Waymo on pricing and service areas - Tesla will drop the safety monitor in the next 6 months**

**I say this as a FSD subscriber on my own car and seeing the arch of progress, albeit with a software branch that’s supposedly 3-6 months behind Robotaxi’s

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Is Tesla robotaxi actually even close to Waymo? I thought they still needed someone in the car with the robotaxi and Waymo had been operating fully autonomous for quite a while already. My understanding is that this is one of the reasons people really like Waymo, it’s like a private ride.

Tesla lost the race and won’t even be in the space in any meaningful way in a few years. They’re only limping along because they have some guy pumping the stock.

> space

Speaking of which, if SpaceX announced today that they are going to put people on Mars in 5 years, I still would find that more believable than Tesla getting anywhere close to Waymo, in the same time frame.

Are you talking about the Robotaxi where there’s a man sitting behind the steering wheel?

Next to, not behind. I see a strong future for both Waymo and Tesla in the driverless car biz.

Tesla is probably a year behind on their software, but they can scale out infinitely faster than Waymo on the hardware.

Either way, we win.

No, I'm pretty sure this one is the one where he is behind the steering wheel.

Being next to the steering wheel is worse. If the human needs to be in the car, then he should be behind the wheel. Putting him next to the wheel is categorically stupid and only serves as theater for fools.

His name is Rob. Rob-o-taxi.

Or the one with the fake man behind a white lever? https://youtu.be/eAkeZqAN_qU?t=20

6 normal months, or 6 Elon months?

As I commute on a motorcycle (often in the rain, causing lower visibility) this is terrifying to me and I hope regulators in my state don't let it happen here until Tesla can prove their "camera only" approach is safe.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/nhtsa-...

I'm always flabbergasted by Tesla fans' commitment to vastly inferior product and their insistence that the big breakthrough is "just around the corner bro, believe me". I'm pretty sure you all just have Stockholm Syndrome after paying for FSD in like 2019 and ingesting copium for over 5 years. I hope you reach a place in your life where you have the confidence to ask for a higher standard.

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