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So, your proposition is to remove their ability to install antivirus software, like Google does in Android?

Users know about this problem and know how to mitigate it. Get out of my way, please.

No, the goal is to move to a system that doesn't rely on badness enumeration (antivirus) as a primary defense. You can rely on the app sandbox and the security model of the system to keep it in check.

Antivirus scanners are essentially useless on modern mobile OSes because they are limited to accessing the same things a malicious app or file would be.

Yeah, I have few bricked devices which reached the your goal.

No, I cannot rely on the app sandbox. If someone else controls a device, then this device can be used against me.

Your antivirus, scanner or not, is useless on your device for you.

My antivirus on my device is useful for me. It works fine on GrapheneOS (Pixel 6), but banned by Google on Pixel 5, which is not supported by Google with security updates. WTF?

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