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Gleam has caught my eye for the past year or so, and I'd totally learn it if I didn't believe firmly that we won't be coding by hand within the next 9 months. It'll all be done by LLMs so syntax and ergonomics won't mean too much. At least as soon as LLMs learn to stop being turbo-slop generators.

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9 months? I mean... 9 years maybe. There's absolutely no way we won't be coding by hand in 9 months, unless the only thing you do is landing pages and CRUD forms.

Never underestimate the ability of the software industry to shit in its own mouth.

Not even 9 years, I'm thinking 30-40 years.

See you in 9 months then to check back.

Anthropic's CEO said 6 months, 6 months ago. https://futurism.com/six-months-anthropic-coding

> if I didn't believe firmly that we won't be coding by hand within the next 9 months.

LLM-assisted coding is awesome, but it feels like a self-driving style problem.

It's going to take 20 years to get there.

Doe LLMs write valid Gleam programs? Trying with ChatGPT three years ago, it did not. Workarounds, like "here is the syntax as a system prompt", put into the prompt I would not consider understanding, as Gleam idioms and patterns will certainly not all fit.

GP is crazy, but if you are basing your view of what LLMs can do based on ChatGPT 3 years ago, that is just as much out of touch.

The entire Gleam language tour (https://tour.gleam.run/everything/) is comprehensive. It contains examples of every language feature and prints to less than 70 pages - easily fits into the context window of any recent LLM.

You should learn Gleam then.

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