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Oh no, society will have to bear the cost of the infrastructure to maintain itself rather than reap the benefits of a population without putting back into. How terrible.

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It doesn't work that way. The US Welfare programs have created multi generational families that have never worked and do not have any parents or grandparents that have ever worked a real job because if anyone did they would risk losing $100k's worth of free benefits to work a minimum wage job that would only pay them $30k. It has created a permanant underclass of people with no job skills that are wholly dependant on the system for their survival.

This is just an extension of that.

I think you are using a whataboutism argument. In this case the childcare benefit will be universal, as in it is NOT means tested like your example.

It may not be means tested, but it will be utilized primarily by families on welfare, and lower income families and in the long term by middle class families who become lower income due to government subsidized programs like these forcing them to pay more for their daily necessities through an increased tax burden.

You have clearly not shopped for childcare on the open market. Highly paid professionals still struggle to get childcare. Putting more resources into the system will be a net positive for all parents who need childcare.

No it won't. Just like putting billions of dollars into the Public School System has not led to any real increase in test scores. And just like Universal healthcare has made healthcare plans just about unaffordable for anyone not working a corporate job and just like government student loans have made the price of college asinine and I could go on and on.

Would love to know where you’re getting this figure from. I worked in the welfare field before moving into tech (and my wife still does) and the payout for TANF plus SNAP for a single mother with like 5 kids would be closer to your $30k than the $100k. Of course that begs the question why work for it if you can get it for free but I believe TANF has a lifetime payout of like 5 years meaning that if the kids get it as a child they will not qualify for that TANF for themselves as an adult.

Ok, now be genuine about the other benefits they're most likely receiving as well: - Medicaid - Section8 - WIC - LIHEAP - LIFELINE Just to name a few.

I also worked for a non profit that helped people get government assistance and got an inside look at what these families are like and what they prioritize.

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