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Don't worry people. If you are not a European let me tell you how it goes.

The 'Unofficial' boss of European Union is Germany. If Germany will vote against it, more countries will back off and it won't pass. If Germany wants ChatControl, it's over. It will pass and all other undecided countries will support it.

Thankfully, Germany (so far) is against it.

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> ... The 'Unofficial' boss of European Union is Germany. ...

I disagree with this sentence. The unofficial bosses are both Germany and France. Which is also the reason why the people in the richer EU countries will suffer economically when the upcoming bailout for France /will/ happen.

The new German government has not spoken out or acted against this (despite similar efforts having been ruled unconstitutional by its highest court)

Sadly, the new German government is comprised of two parties that have consistently voted for more surveillance. I'm afraid this time it's up to the courts to stop this.

Germany isn't the boss of anything. When it comes to yielding power, France always gets the upper hand. Always

europeans should still use the opportunity to organize against it and future attempts

Would this have been UK/Germany back in the day?

UK-Germany-France collectively I think

Probably better for you guys that UK is out now, our government would have been salivating at the thought of spying on every citizen without repercussions

It's one of the reasons they wanted out. Theresa May was very explicit that she considered the European Court of Human Rights an obstacle.

The UK got what they wanted. Apple still hasn't reenabled ADP so iCloud backups are available for snooping.

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