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Only ever had a Thinkpad lid close sensor fail once. Found my T60 heating up my backpack. Other than that, never been a problem.

I've never once had a Dell/HP/Acer/Asus with a reliable lid close sensor. You can't trust those things.

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If you're talking about laptops waking up inside backpacks- that's due to the terrible implementation of "Windows Modern Standby" that has ruined every laptop except Macbooks and Framework. (Framework still implements legacy S3 standby to improve compatibility with Linux.)

> If you're talking about laptops waking up inside backups

Presumably he meant the laptop didn't go into standby when closed or woke up from standby while still closed.

That’s what Modern Standby does.

> Framework still implements legacy S3 standby to improve compatibility with Linux.

Just want to warn other readers: Not all framework models have S3 sleep. I've got the 7040 AMD framework laptop and it only does s2idle.

This has been an issue for so long - who is at fault? Is it hardware vendors or software? The spec itself is so bad that all implementations will disagree?

Halting power until an external physical event seems like a simple enough idea. I have never wanted to close my laptop and let it keep number crunching.

Microsoft. There's ~nothing to be gained by checking in with the Internet while laptop is closed, they implemented it anyway.

I've also found my work MacBook Pro heating up my backpack sleeve a number of times because it didn't properly go to sleep. Likely culprit is some "security" spyware the company installs.

It's not generally the lid sensor that causes a Windows laptop to fail to go to sleep, is it?

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