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I used to work for Huawei where 996 or worse wasn't uncommon. While middle management definitely pushed for extended working hours, I didn't get the impression that anyone viewed it as failed management. If anything, upper management knew exactly what was happening and was encouraging it.

Hell, you have the likes of Jack Ma glorifying 996, calling it a blessing.

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Not a lot of people know, but the 996 in Alibaba included 2 hour long lunch and sleep break, as well as 1 hour for a dinner at 6 pm.

I worked for ByteDance in Singapore. People would show up for work between 10 and 11am, lunch would start around 11:45am or 12, then people would nap until 2pm at their desk. A good, focused engineer could produce the same output as these engineers while only working in the morning

Exactly - I felt like the real work happened only 11-12 and 15-18, and maaaybe some meetings 19-20. Everything else was a fluff.

No time for kids and loved ones or hobbies outside of work.

I never understood why Huawei is doing it. It seems like a "do it when you are young for the resume and then leave" type of things.

Only young people can support this schedule, how a company like that is expecting senior and experienced people to stay?

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