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Expanding Economic Opportunity with AI

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Prompt engineering as they articulate it is a dead in the water skill.

real Prompt engineering is done using automated methods, i.e. textgrad or dspy to make sure your prompt has been optimized for 500+ iterations.

This is so wrong... there is so much surface area for people to be better at flex-prompting consumer- and enterprise-grade applications.

The time span between grandmaster + AI engine being better than AI chess engine was like 10 years max, likely a lot less depending on how you look at it.

It's the same dynamic but shrunk by far more time due to extreme uptick. You won't ever prompt even close to better than the person who literally optimized a prompt using verifiable rewards for 500 iterations.

The future will be controlled by those most effective at wielding the means of computation. Writing prompts by hand gets you the equivalent of a serf getting a shovel. Learning to wield the automation tools gets you your own castle.

... and not everyone will seek to be the best at prompting.

Prompt engineering remains valuable.

Add [1] to ChatGPT custom instructions and responses improve dramatically.

[1] https://github.com/DenisSergeevitch/chatgpt-custom-instructi...

Steelmanning this.

If its goal is to act like Cisco or Juniper and create a robust certification platform that helps identify legitimate experts in the field, helping to exclude people who talk big on AI but cant deliver, its a very good idea.

If its just a tick a box exercise however it will have zero value.

>OpenAI is committing to certifying 10 million Americans by 2030

I reckon they would have a better time certifying 10 million foreigners tbh. India and the Philippines have a lot of people who pass through IT certification.

This is a marketing effort to advertise and promote use of their tech.

Nothing wrong with it, nothing to see here.

What about the wheel, or the written word?

This is complete garbage, imho

I suppose AI is meant to free human from soul crushing tasks, not another certification human worker has to care about

This is a lot of words. What is the concrete thing here - is it just a certification program run by OpenAI?

Write a title that will sound like we care about the world.

This makes a tremendous amount of sense. Most people are so bad at using AI for productive purposes -- but outside of eng, most AI fluency is actually hot garbage. People just haven't gained an understanding or appreciation for the degree of quality and capability they can achieve.

And once they can use it and get visible results, those orgs are ripe for large amounts of AI product adoption.

Only downside to the OAI version will be that it's OAI specific.

The corp speak bs is so strong in this one it could be mistaken for satire.

> from "greatest productivity boost in mankind's history" to "uhm akshually you are holding it wrong" in the short span of two years

Yikes. Cringiest tech bubble ever.

Unbelievable.

If nothing else, if this was truly “open” then whatever bullshit training or certification would just be released into the public for people to reference at-will.

So now there’s going to be some database of “you passed our certification to use our tool” essentially creating an in-group and an out-group.

All this because “you’re holding it wrong, clearly the problem isn’t us, it’s you people”

This is dystopian.

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