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Comment by johnisgood | Hacker News Reader

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IMO that is a misuse of LLMs. You are not supposed to outsource your thinking. You need to be part of the whole process, incl. the architectural design. I am, and I got far with LLMs (Claude mostly, not much with GPT). I use GPT for personal stuff or ramblings, not for coding.

There will always be people who misuse something, but we should not hurt those who do not. Same with drugs. There are functional junkies who know when to stop, go on a tolerance break, take just enough of a dose and so forth, vs. the irresponsible ones. The situation is quite similar and I do not want AI to be "banned" (assuming it could) because of people who misuse LLMs.

People, let us have nice things.

As for the article... did they not say the same thing about search engines and Wikipedia? Do you remember how cheating actually helps us learn (by writing down the things you want to cheat)? Problem is, people do not even bother reading the output of the LLM and that is on them.

Misuse or not, who cares about labeling.

Internet was supposed to be this wonderful free place with all information available and unbiased, not the cesspool of scams and tracking that makes 1984 look like a fairytale for children. Atomic energy was supposed to free mankind from everlasting struggle for energy dependency, end wars and whatnot. LLMs we supposed to be X and not Y and used as Z and not BBCCD.

For what population loses overall, compared to whats gained (really, what? a mild increased efficiency sometimes experienced on individual level, sometimes made up for PR), I consider these LLMs are a net loss for whole mankind.

Above should tell you something about human nature, how naive some of the brightest of us are.

It works for me, so I would rather not have it taken away from me. Take it away from people who misuse it.

If it is a human nature issue (with which I agree), then we are in a deep shit and this is why we cannot have nice things.

Educate, and if that fails, then punish those who "misuse" it. I do not have a better idea. It works for me quite well for coding, and it will continue to work as long as it is not going to get nerfed.

Nobody is taking it away from you, but as we seem to agree that ship has sailed for some deep waters, nobody is backpedaling back.

Well cheers to even bigger gap between elite who can afford good education and upbringing and cheap crappy rest. Number of scifi novels come to mind where poor semi-mindless masses are governed by 'educated' elites. I always thought how such society must have screwed up badly in the past to end up like that. Nope, road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions and small little steps which seem innocent or even beneficial on their own, in their time.

It is just crazy that people still believe in the "think of the children" narratives, or "it is for your own safety". I think these seemingly good intentions (which are not actually good intentions, just seem so) are a huge problem, and lack of resistance because if you resist, their rebuttal is "you don't want our kids to be safe?!" and so forth, appealing to emotions and shame.

sure, we may call that a misuse. But there are already people using them this way, and they're marketed this way, and I was not making a point about the correctness of using them this way---just observing that this is going to have far-reaching consequences.

I know, and it is huge problem that people use it this way, and that it is marketed this way.

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