This is a thread about nsa style intelligence operations, where 5 eyes is explicitly called out.

What are we even talking about anymore? This sub thread is a weird digression on if it’s normal to include Israel in the phrase “western intelligence”. The US collaborates more with 5 eyes nations (2 of which are is the South Pacific) and Israel, be it Mossad or Unit 8200 than it does with France.

My contention is that the phrase Western Intelligence is a cultural signifier that has nothing to do with geography. And that pointing out that Israel is not in the west (while not doing the same for New Zealand) is more strange than including them by default.

At the point where you've suggested that Australia (of all countries) might not have an intelligence service, you've surrendered the ability to demand others come up with citations. For the record, not only do they, but they're one of the more important players. Trying to suggest otherwise to wriggle out from the "Western" argument was not a strong rhetorical move.