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I hate how being harsh has become fashionable. What ever happened to manners?

It's like comedians who replace comedy with a heavy use of "fuck", "fucking", "shit", etc.

For some of the screenshots, I wasn't sure what the problem and wished he suggested a solution.

Not a defence, but hey, Adobe started it. With their crock-tastic installers, their updating of updated updaters, everything to do with Acrobat and Reader, app bloat, market segmentation gone nuts, rip-off pricing for Europe, vulnerability-inducing setups (like bundling a needless, insecure copy of Opera) and launch times measured in aeons, they've treated their users like dirt for years.

That doesn't engender politeness.

They sure did! Flex is the first truely buggy language and runtime I've ever had the displeasure of working with, and I keep a list similar to this (but far less safe for work). I keep mine private since I don't want my name to be associated with it, but I'm cheering this guy on.

I'm focusing my energy in a far more positive way - I'm switching to Haxe, which lets me independent of the Flash tools, and also swap away from Flash Player/swf when a better alternative comes along (it wouldn't be hard to make one, it's sad that their only real competition is from the even less competently made Java for the web).

I don't think it would be anywhere near as funny without such over-the-top profanity. There is clearly plenty of tongue in cheek, and I found the whole thing hilarious. Don't evaluate it as a serious critique but rather as an amusing skit of Adobe's frustratingly clueless UI design.

My favourite one is "Nice bug you bunch of bellends".

Hilarity. I got such a kick out of this. Adobe truly is crapping all over the place with their UI. I'm pretty sure it's still Carbon based on OS X. Why can't someone like Adobe with so many apps on Win and OS X spend some time to build a really strong -- or even adopt -- front-end framework. CS4 is utter crap, thankfully I didn't purchase it. CS3 was enough of a let down, and I paid quite a few hundred dollars for that.

I think it's more of the design culture intersecting with the mainstream. E.g. the Bravo Channel Effect :-)

sickens me how unloved Fireworks is.

Maybe it does good things, but the interface is awful.

Agreed. I have a copy of Fireworks 4 (back when it was Macromedia Fireworks) that I still use to this day to do basic graphics and picture clean-up stuff. I'm not a graphic artist by trade - something we should all be thankful for :) - but it gets the job done for just about everything I need to do.

Ditto. I remembered the day that Adobe bought Macromedia. My first thought was, "F#CK! They're going to turn Fireworks in to a piece of crap". Sure enough, they turned it into a piece of crap.

So much for competition!

I'm still nostalgic for Cold Fusion Studio 4. That was even back before Macromedia bought Allaire, but still today it would rank as the second best development environment for HTML and Javascript (after VS.NET, but only because it has a good debugger to offset its lame HTML & JS intellisense).

Then they folded it into Dreamweaver and ruined it completely by version 5.

I used to use that for all my development too and thought it was great at the time. I even wrestled with it's crazy syntax highlighter to get ActionScript colour coding working. The lack of Unicode support became a bit of a problem for me towards the end though.

I love Fireworks, fucking hate CS4.

I've been using FW since version 4, from everything from wireframes to full polished design, and I have never seen this much bugginess on any production software. The worst part of it is that the most persistent bugginess is the text selection, which is half of what I do when designing.

Probably because there is no reason for it to exist if you can use Photoshop... I'm surprised there are that many posts about FW actually, I don't know anyone who uses it and I tend not to install it even.

For laying out web sites, Fireworks is far superior to Photoshop. There's a drastic difference in methodologies. Fireworks thinks in shapes, Photoshop in pixels.

I'm not sure I see the distinction, especially with smart objects and vectors in Photoshop these days.

I was thinking of upgrading, but based on this thread I guess I'll be holding on to Fireworks 8 for now. I love Fireworks and I hope they find it in their hearts to fix it.

dearadobe.com

I had a Turbo button on my first computer. What was it supposed to do? I think I always pressed it because, hey, faster is better than slower.

Coding Horror has the answer: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001173.html

It's a compatibility feature, allowing older software to run at the speed it was intended to run at (mainly games).

But really just to put the word 'turbo' on your machine, to make it seem faster.

I had what, 3-5 PCs with that switch on there, and never once used that feature.

By far the my #1 gripe is the lack of consistency between Illustrator and Photoshop.

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