Comment by c0balt | Hacker News Reader

Comment by c0balt | Hacker News Reader

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To add to the other commenters, in the spirit of providing feedback for the next iteration:

- responsivity, the site does not scale well on portrait screens, specifically the email input is shifted to the left and partially off-screen

- layout, the header is not vertically aligned. The elements are off-center

- design, it looks nice at a first glance but lacks polish. Consider starting with an existing landing page template (there are lots of free ones) and refining with AI, if you are unable to create one yourself or hire/ask someone.

- contact/ TOS, you provide your (presumably) legal name and email address. If this is a real fund you should at least provide some sort of address and name of the fiscal host. A personal gmail address also strongly indicates that this is not a functional fund with proper organization of fiscal resources.

- name, already mentioned by other posters but the llama part is not good. My first thought was "Meta has new fund?" however the site's content directly squashed this (no legal contact -> no proper fiscal host). Even disregarding trademark concerns, you don't focus on llama but on open-source models, so please try to name it appropriately.

Thanks for the feedback!

I would also say this is early stages and I don’t think it’s necessary to have every piece of this solved.

This isn’t a fund really it’s crowd funding, and we are looking to gauge interest as we reach out to investors and early clients.

I’m generally surprised by how many people on HN don’t follow their advice. Ship early, get validation

What are you shipping here?

I think that uh they are shipping a platform through which crowdfunding can happen for AI models, which is an inherently cool idea imo.

Man, I understand the implementation might have some rough edges but that's besides the point because the idea is cool, not sure why people are almost picking up on this guy.

Maybe I am wrong, I usually am, but I have been on hackernews for almost an year and HN is usually not like this. Most comments here feel like bully comments, literally being too harsh is not necessary and just reflects our personality back imo.

those are my 2 cents atleast.

I can only speak for myself and here it hits a nerve. Yes, the idea is fine, but the idea is only "crowdfund training", and not how this can be actually and practically implemented. It shows this exact ignorance of people who have no idea about anything but are sure that just with enough funding they can change the world, people just need to see how smart they are. I am not saying that this fully applies to OP, more that this is a regular occurance and can get people rather annoyed, at least it does for me, and thus lead to such harsh and blunt responses.

He "ships" a website with a gmail address and nothing substantial. I could do the same, likely better, in 20 minutes. How could I even tell this from a scam, there is nothing of substance. And the great idea is just obvious and all the painful details to make it work are completely ignored

well a great point, I have no skin in the game and genuinely just want to discuss, but you don't really have to add anything substantial in such cases.

Like, What do you expect him to add, create a distributed training system, well that is orders of magnitude inefficient than normal training where people donate their money

If you want him to get some reputation, that's fair but I have always believed in building in the public kind approach. Maybe I am wrong, but yes the website definitely might be made better and honestly I might create some checkpoints from this website like never ever use some other persons trademarks,

make the website pleasant to see

just use some mail service, its not worth it showing the gmail sign. The people mocking this is wild

These are things that are easy to do imo.

As I said in the other project, transparency feels like the key to such problem. And honestly the fact that you could ship it in 20 minutes might be valid but I mean :/ cmon man.

What are your thoughts? I also thought of such idea and wanted to build something like this but gave up, Might build it in a year or two but what would you suggest him to do? Instead of giving him harsh responses, lets be productive since I don't care who implements my idea. I just want a place where people crowdfund models. I don't care if some patrick person builds it or I build or you build it. It should be good though

As I said in a different reply, I would not know how to address the engineering and management aspect, let alone the legal aspect, which are the biggest blockers and likely the reason this is not already done.

It's fine to develop "in the open" but this is a pitch for several million dollars, and handing that out without any credentials or track record is just not happening.

At least provide rough estimates for what is needed to get this done. What architecture? What training data? Where does the training happen? Who manages and administrates the cluster? Volunteers who try this the first time or paid experts? What solutions to failure recovery, to storage, to tracking and monitoring? Who has the last word on fundamental decisions? How will the legal component be handled? Do they already have a good law firm, how much would that cost? Will the first training be successful right away or how many iterations will be required? Can you even get access to the required GPUs at a reasonable price point? Train on older architecture? How much effort is required and planned to save cost by making training more efficient, ........

Its so darn funny that the parent post says that they couldn't take this seriously because they think it was created by lovable (an AI vibe coded) thing

And well it turns out that the author hasn't used AI.

And the next comment I see is yours which "suggest" him to use "AI" for "refining"

This felt so weird on why are you suggesting him AI when the gp accused him of using AI in the first place as an almost deregotary term when he in fact didn't use it, like huh???

I looked at the source code because I was interested in what template/backend was used and the header contains a `<meta name="twitter:site" content="@lovable_dev" />`. As far as I know this is an artifact from lovable.dev, a generative AI tool for website vibe coding, and this does link to lovables twitter account.

Note: the website has been updated since my original comment, notably the points on layout/design have been mostly fixed. The lovable tag has stayed through both iterations.

very interesting find. That tarnishes a lot of reputation that it has.

Man wants to crowdfund AI models to create open source AI models

He should've instead shared the prompt that he entered into lovable instead.

Makes a shit ton of sense now. Okayyyy wtf man, I won't really ever have the guts to push cheap AI slop like lovable directly to HN. I am okay with claude code / gemini / heck chatgpt or deepseek etc. but lovable etc. just makes it feel as if the person writing it doesn't even know how to read code or be comfortable with code itself, let alone writing the code.

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