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Your point is ridiculous! I'm so angry at the moment... How can people say something like this... I don't get it. Non-tech-guys don't see such little differences. Especially if they are bit older. They just don't care and often people wouldn't even see the HP logo on the bezel either. They don't care. It looks like an iMac, which saw in a TV ad and want to buy one. Plus if the best buy guy says it is the same thing they will believe your words cause they don't know better.

It's not even about design but also about marketing budget which Apple pays for it's products. With copying the design, you even get the marketing for free...

I hate to say this but at the moment the whole PC / Tablet industry is copying Apple. And this nothing good at all. Not for Apple and not for everyone else!

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I'm absolutely baffled by the emotional reaction of anger over this.

Is this really something to be angry about?

I mean, I feel anger at times. Anger at libraries being shut, poverty in the local estates, jobs being cut, growing up without a father present, that we go to war, that cycling in London is more dangerous than it need be.

But I don't get angry when <company A> does anything to <company B> for any values of A and B.

I didn't get angry because someone copied Apple but that someone would say that old people like my would need new glasses if they couldn't differentiate both machines. This arrogant and offensive at the same time. What makes you say something like that? Not everyone knows everything about technology. My Dad is 67 and I know he couldn't distinguish those machines but that is ok. He doesn't need to.

HN is not Digg or Youtube comments.

It's ok if your dad can't distinguish such things - but maybe you shouldn't quote him as authority for "x copied y" then.

"I hate to say this but at the moment the whole PC / Tablet industry is copying Apple. And this nothing good at all. Not for Apple and not for everyone else!"

I understand you took it as an insult to your dad. But from your comment, it seems you are also angry because someone copied Apple. I really don't understand that part. I also don't understand why this is bad for anyone other than Apple.

It's not that bad for Apple cause if you copy Apple you will never be better than Apple itself. Think about it. You can't win Apples own game. You could win if you would come up with something better BUT if everybody is busy copying who will do exactly that? Don't get me wrong I'm not talking about hardware specs.

It is bad for everybody because a) if this trend goes on there will be no "different" products anymore and everything will at some point look like it comes from Apple and b) there will be no competition at all. Competition is good for a industry. Even Apple needs some competition to get better and better.

HP sells better hardware for less price than Apple. Their only problem was design and now they have solved it by copying Apple. I was looking for an all-in-one computer to buy and now that HP computers have both great design and great specs, I will probably buy them. I am no longer in a trade-off between ugly design and worse specs for my money.

> Non-tech-guys don't see such little differences. Especially if they are bit older.

Just because my mother can't tell any of the modern cars apart doesn't mean they don't look different in some way. She's just not educated on the differences, and doesn't know what to look for. That doesn't mean that Hyundai and Kia should be sued for designing their cars to incorporate styles from the most popular luxury cars on the market; in the end they're still selling you something that isn't nearly as high quality as the competitors they're imitating, and nobody walks into a Hyundai or Kia dealer thinking they're getting a German piece of engineering.

His point is completely sane. Your point is completely delusional. Having a rectangular monitor on a stand is not Apple's "trade dress", "IP", or anything else. It is a standard design choice that has been around for ages.

HP didn't copy anything here worth mentioning.

It's worth noting that older non-tech-guys haven't been able to tell the difference between Macs and PCs forever, even when they have wildly differing designs, to the point that it's a tech support cliche now.

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