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Comment by Dilettante_ | Hacker News Reader

A "digital no-fly-list" is hella cyberpunk, though.

The question might become, what side of the black wall are you going to be on?

Seriously though I do think we are going to see increasing interest in alternative nets, especially as governments tighten their control over the internet or even break away into isolated nation nets.

Paradoxically, the problem with an "alternative net" (which could be tunneled over the regular one) is keeping it alternative. It has to be kept small and un-influential in order to stay under the radar. If you end up with an "alternative" which is used by journalists and politicians, you've just reinvented the mainstream, and you're no longer safe from being hit by a policy response.

Think private trackers. The opposite of 4chan, which is an "alternative" that got too influential in setting the tone of the rest of the internet.

Not necessarily, Yggdrasil flies under the radar because it's inherently hard to block.

Tor even more so, the power of Tor is that the more people use it: the stronger it becomes to centralised adversaries.

The main issue with Tor is the performance of it though.

The truth is the internet was never designed or intended to host private information. It was created for scientists by scientists to share research papers. Capitalists perverted it.

I thought that the main issue with tor was that so many of the exit nodes are actually the FBI.

You don't ever have to leave the Tor network.

I host IRC on a hidden service, and even Facebook (lol) offers a hidden service endpoint.

All that is needed is for a critical mass of people and a decent index: and we successfully have reinvented "the wired" from Serial Experiments: Lain

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