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Funny thing only yesterday I saw a great thread on reddit where people shared stories of their older relatives becoming obsessed about trans people (not in a healthy way) alike to how some became obsessed with the qanon conspiracy before.

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I actually have a neighbor who now has a trans girl at 13 years old, since about 10. I knew the child from infancy. So as conspiratorial as it could be, I am literally watching a neighbor destroy their child month by month. It's not a conspiracy.

I have a trans kid at 15. Living their best life. Knew the kid from day one (today’s their 15th birthday). Guess what? It’s all their choice, suggestion, etc. While I’d prefer their original name (I mean, I chose that for a reason), everything else is obvious and right in retrospect.

Instead of just /watching/ a neighbor, you could /be/ a neighbor and get to know them. You might feel differently about your preconceptions when you actually know the human.

I do actually know them. I'm nice as can be and help the family with their cars. But what's being done to that kid is terrible and most likely permanent. I don't think a kid is old enough to know if this stuff should be done to them.

And so you’ve decided trans kids will be your goto issue in internet discourse? Curious.

Only once I realized there's people hurting children that won't let you even talk about it, calling others bigots.

See, this is what I was going at above. You are not really concerned about wellbeing of the children. You are just obsessed about this single (manufactured) issue.

I use the insane, gross, evil thing they approve of to remind them that while they throw around the bigot word at normal people, they are the true gross evil in the world, but regardless of that, just their non approval of healthy sane normal people makes them the bigots.

"Every madman thinks all other men mad"

Oh for sure, I'm the mad Men because I think children shouldn't be given surgery and life-altering hormones based on thoughts they have as children. Your position is so terrible that there's nothing you can say that will make it ever make any kind of sense.

I don't think you'll get anywhere arguing with these people, especially the ones who've bought into this cult to the extent that they've transed their own children.

They have to convince themselves they've done the right thing, because the alternative is horrifying.

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