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> we've been building the world's fastest IDE

Any data to backup this?

Well, last year, Nikita Tonsky measured it and it did worse than Sublime: https://mastodon.online/@nikitonsky/112146684329230663

It's funny how often people buy into the marketing and say "blazing fast" without actually questioning it. FWIW, I still prefer Zed because its LSP integration and vim mode are better than Sublime's.

Yes if a software markets itself like this without backing up I smell BS.

Like any company now is "global leader in X market".

It's commendable to try and challenge Sublime, the undisputed performance champion in GUI text editing, but making false claims is a massive red flag.

I know it probably didn't, but I wonder if part of Sequoia's decision to invest had anything to do with these false claims?

I really love Sublime. If it had a solid "remote-ssh" type integration and a more straightforward way to manage plugins/extensions that isn't a rats nest of random directories with similar names - I would return to using it. I purchased every upgrade from like 2012 to 2022 or so.

You can try it out. I would say it’s aiming to be a more modern Sublime Text, which is a win to be considered in the same category imo.

This is accurate. I came over from Sublime Text because it had become laggy over >5 running instances, and native LLM integration. Even VS Code doesn't actually have that... where everything is an extension versus seamlessly/perfectly fitting

As mentioned in other comments, it actually outperforms window management in general in many/most cases. Radically flexible and almost never gets in the way

I have tried it out and by default it was so slow as to be unusable. After discovering it required some customization in /etc (because it's the only GUI application that fails to recognize my GPU on a very popular distro with next to zero customization, because I game a lot on Linux - weird how that's a me problem and not a Zed problem) it got better, but still noticeably slower than VS Code.

The modern Sublime Text is Sublime Text. There is way too much "extra" in Zed to compare it. If anything, it's a new IntelliJ.

Slower than VS Code?? I guess it's just poorly optimized for Linux. On MacOS, I find it to be significantly faster than VS Code, and the only alternative I've found that's in the ballpark of Sublime (from the performance aspect).

I'm on Linux and performance is the reason I switched from VSCode to Zed. It works great for me.

Perhaps the same issue that had Zed fail to recognize their GPU also tanked their performance.

> If anything, it's a new IntelliJ.

I do not understand how one says this with a straight face unless you’ve never used either product. Do you also believe Neovim to be a “new IntelliJ”? That’s the level of functionality out the box, though fortunately Zed does not require lots of screwing with config files to get basic things working.

Just to clarify: I'm not saying I doubt they are the fastest, I don't know and I don't care. What I do care is that a company (a VC backed one specially) that markets their product like that follows the statement with proof, otherwise we should call it BS

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