Gazan woman flown to Italy dies of malnutrition
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https://xcancel.com/Israel/status/1950259113948070197 / https://www.instagram.com/p/DMs4qUlInQE/
> 41-year-old Mohammad al-Hasanat didn’t die of starvation — he suffered from untreated diabetes and died from complications of severe hypercatabolism.
Starvation causes hypercatabolism; it means your body is eating its own proteins. Statements all the way up to Netanyahu that no starvation is happening in Gaza are deeply, profoundly absurd.
Hypercatabolic syndrome (HS) is a biochemical state characterized by increased circulating catabolic hormones (eg, cortisol, catecholamines) and inflammatory cytokines (eg, tumor necrosis factors, interleukin–1β), and decreased anabolic insulin effects with consequent insulin resistance. The most important metabolic consequence of HS is the skeletal and cardiac muscle protein breakdown that releases amino acids (AAs), which in turn supports indispensable body energy requirements but also reduces skeletal and cardiac physiologic and metabolic functions. HS occurs in many diseases such as diabetes mellitus, chronic heart failure, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, renal and liver failure, trauma, sepsis, and senescence
The bit you left off is pretty telling:
> Macronutrients such as [amino acid] supplements, taken together with conventional therapy, may maintain muscular protein metabolism and cell functions.
We're right back at "not enough protein".
this is not case of hypercatabolism as result of starvation. this is one of symptoms of diabetes which "may" could help by "amino acid supplements"
so we are not back anywhere.
> this is not case of hypercatabolism as result of starvation
This is an assertion made by the Israeli government, an interested party with a history of lying. "Israel's government denies there is malnutrition in Gaza" is a claim even the Trump administration contests (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62nr9rglm9o).
> this is one of symptoms of diabetes
To be clear, they asserted untreated diabetes. Its untreated nature is also something related to the war, Israel having bombed every hospital in Gaza and blockaded all supplies including food.
A diabetic's body eating itself in a blockaded war zone with no food or medicine is… unsurprising. Starving people in a slightly roundabout way is still starving people, even if they have existing medical conditions.
nothing to do with starvation.
in usa iirc,in usa 20k people died in 2022 or so from malnutrition. were they also in blockaded zone ? or is it just happens so that malnutrition is a complex thing that not always affected by food supply
AKA stress hormones. I wonder why they're stressed?
> nothing to do with starvation.
I assure you, if you have one of these conditions, piling starvation on top absolutely hurts your chances of survival.
> in usa iirc,in usa 20k people died in 2022 or so from malnutrition. were they also in blockaded zone ?
Population-wise, that's the equivalent of 170 in Gaza, and the US numbers are largely elderly people; Gaza is 50% minors.
Starvation is the openly stated goal of the Israeli government. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250416-israel-says-n...
> "Israel's policy is clear: no humanitarian aid will enter Gaza, and blocking this aid is one of the main pressure levers preventing Hamas from using it as a tool with the population," [Defense Minister] Katz said in a statement.
adrenal glands disfunction can cause elevated levels of cortisol. adrenal glands also responsible for catecholamines. adrenal glands disfunction can be caused by diabetes, leukamia or number of other conditions.
wait till you learn about auto-immune disorders.
I have one. Even wound up in the hospital for a week with a cytokine storm.
Guess how well I'd have done recovering in a place with every hospital reduced to rubble and no food available?
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You can clearly see that the BBC edited this headline. I've seen them do this a lot, but whether you believe me or want to investigate further yourself is entirely up to you.
Well, sure, but people also commonly believe that they are pressured to do so and eventually relent to the pressure. That they changed something is not strictly evidence that the old version was "factually incorrect".
> I normally just read but thought I'd comment today. (I might have commented before on an old account but if so I've forgotten the details.)
Since we're already on the topic of worthless throwaway accounts, I feel the need to comment on this. This reads like a bit like a "regular internet citizen" phrase of someone who is not that attached to their accounts, which is, of course, a reasonable perspective, but it also reads a lot like someone who's literally paid to read popular discussion sites ("I normally just read") and make accounts they don't care about ("I might have commented before on an old account but if so I've forgotten the details") for the sake of voicing an opinion that benefits their employer if widely believed ("thought I'd comment today"). Just food for thought for the person who is presumably commenting with their genuine opinions. And, of course, readers who are interested in observing sneaky phrases that could potentially cause their thinking to be misdirected.
So n=2?
How about examples?
If anything Israel gets pretty much a free ride in the UK press and particularly on the BBC
That hardly seems surprising, given the way the war is going.
> It cites several examples, including a podcast last November in which Mr Bowen stated “Hamas ...an Islamic resistance movement...we’ve seen in the past few weeks has a military strategy” and a News at Ten report last October in which he said: “Hamas will try to use hit-and-run guerrilla tactics against a much more powerful army.”
Every word in that last sentence is accurate. Where's the bias?
> It claims Mr Bowen has also compared Israel’s offensive in Gaza to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, including in a BBC article in November last year in which he stated: “Israel is on course to have killed as many Palestinian civilians in just over a month as Russia has killed in Ukraine since February 2022.”
Again, entirely accurate?
> In one example, the report cites Ms Doucet stating in a radio dispatch in February this year: “And from the beginning of this Israel Gaza War, which erupted on October 7, it has been clear that both the United States and Iran do not want to be dragged into a direct confrontation”
Accurate again?
The BBC reporting is the same. "Starving children" with a picture of a child with an disease that made that child look starved before the war. I saw that same false picture in the news just today!
The bias against Israel is striking if you open your eyes.
This is the BBC’s fault?
> I saw that same false picture in the news just today!
Even Trump agrees kids are starving in Gaza.
I'd say if you post an accusative claim on a controversial topic as your first post with a new account, it should probably include far more information.
- The user name already shows in green, which means a new account. Thus, your comment does not give any additional context. - If your goal is to provide context, I'm sure you do not fail to provide it when an account with a long history and a tons of karma makes a comment that goes contrary to what you want to believe, right?
> I'm sure you do not fail to provide it when an account with a long history and a tons of karma makes a comment that goes contrary to what you want to believe
Why would that be necessary? They wouldn't be "throwaway" in that case.
Then rest of article does not discuss it ... need more analysis it seems....
Patients with conditions like leukemia (and children, and the elderly) are going to suffer first from malnutrition. Even if the hospitals hadn't all been blown up.
Advanced cancer can be secondary to blown up hospitals.
It is notable that in the same famous photo of the emaciated Mohammed Zakaria al‑Mutawaq in the NYT article, his not-malnourished looking brother Joud was cropped out. And their mother is not emaciated. Is she supposed to be starving her younger child to feed herself and her other son? To me this is evidence of press cooperation with a propaganda campaign.
I submit that if you find either side in this propaganda war to be credible by default, you do the other side a disservice.
Sure, if Israel wasn't actively targeting journalists and cutting off telecoms from within the strip, and the case for starvation rested entirely on a couple of photographs in mainstream US broadsheets.
>It is notable that in the same famous photo of the emaciated Mohammed Zakaria al‑Mutawaq in the NYT article, his not-malnourished looking brother Joud was cropped out. And their mother is not emaciated.
You're right, just like it's notable that in the retraction, they didn't mention that his 'confounding condition' was caused by her malnutrition during pregnancy, per the same report that was used to force said retraction. Also, emaciation is not present in all cases of malnutrition.
>To me this is evidence of press cooperation with a propaganda campaign.
But, not say, calling it the 'Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry' to diminish the credibility of the casualty figures which were good enough for the WHO and UN? Odd.
>I submit that if you find either side in this propaganda war to be credible by default, you do the other side a disservice.
If you were sincere about this standard, you would apply it to yourself. Even this statement is implicitly propagandistic, if not conspiratorial.