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In California our rate in 2019 with PG&E was $0.20/kWh - in 2025 it’s $0.38/kWh. CA keeps giving them the ability to raise prices and under deliver

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Just as a comparison, here in Montréal I pay $0.051USD/kWh and we're at 99.2% renewables. Large customers pay even less.

ah, Quebec. So much energy but nobody can buy it!

Ontario can’t..

New England wants it but keeps hitting NIMBYism..

NY wants it but needs new infrastructure

Weird that such obvious solutions not being considered. Quebec probably would have had even been a great pumped storage site powering entire New England and Eastern Canada, but the incentives to think big are not aligned it seems.

In my opinion, the best thing to do would be for Quebec to start being a data center world hub. They have enough energy to power all the world’s data centers, and they would essentially be exporting their energy by way of offseting demand elsewhere.

New England desperately needs more power lines and natural gas pipelines. Electric prices have doubled in NE due to rising natural gas prices and power plants being mostly NG. The existing pipelines are fully booked so extra has to come via ship (compressed natural gas). They bid on the global market against other rich buyers like Germany who were scrambling after the war began.

Probably easier at this point to just run an underwater HVDC cable from Quebec down the US eastern seaboard and let anyone hook up who is willing to pay into the consortium.

Wow that’s half the price of what we pay here in BC.

That's more than double what we pay in the PNW

That's also likely the cost from a few rate hikes ago.

https://www.pge.com/content/dam/pge/docs/account/rate-plans/...

Wow, their "off peak" prices are literally 10x what we pay up here for off-peak.

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