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Focus is the same. It's the euphoric high and increased hyperactivity in neurotypicals which is the divergent response.

the euphoric high also happens in those with ADHD but only when they first start taking it. I would assume if you took it recreationally and not consistently you would have the same effect

Eh. When you take it the first time the euphoria is more that you can focus and the mind becomes quieter. It’s not like a party drug

The euphoria from amphetamine (in reasonable doses) is also rather subtle - it's no MDMA where it's very much in your face.

But lifted mood and energy is why it's taken recreationally, the euphoria can then come what you make from that.

One neurotypical I know who took 20mg of Adderall IR ended up going into a hyperfocused ‘can’t look away from the road’ 12+ hour road trip without stopping and couldn’t sleep for 3 days afterwards.

An ADHD’er I know who did the same thing, took a nap instead, and then actually started their taxes.

These are not the same thing.

Not doubting you but… how? Adderall leaves your system in like 4 hours. The half life is crazy short and it’s extremely noticeable when it happens. I don’t understand how someone would fail to sleep for 3 days, or even hyper focus for 12 hours, when the drug is going to be completely gone from their system and not affecting them a fraction of the time into that period. Are you sure it wasn’t something else or they didn’t take more doses or other things?

That’s what they described.

Extended release. Those fucking things would keep me up for 3 days. If I take a the same dose of instant release, it'll be worn off at the end of the day and I'll sleep like a log. They say it wears off in 4 hours, but a single dose keeps working all day for me. Depends on how you metabolize it.

I got some 10mg Dexedrine Spansule's when I usually take normal 5mg's and I didn't sleep until 4am :(

Dosage response curves != Individual biochemistries and neural architecture/metabolisms. Some people it'll just hit different.

Drug responses can be weird. Plus if you’ve been told this will make you manic and hyperfocused, your body will respond accordingly even if biochemically that doesn’t make a lot of sense.

My problem is I forget to take my Adderall. I've also experienced shortages in my area for 3+ months. When I eventually start back on my meds after a long hiatus, it seems to work just like it did when I stopped.

I could use some more euphoria in my life, sadly Adderall does not provide it (for me.)

thats where i have to disagree. if I give anyone 5mg dexteoamphetamin they would be less hyperactive and more focused on one thing. If you do too much it doesnt matter if you are regular brain or not. 80mg of dextroamphetamin would make everyone look like a speed freak.

If it would make people hyperactive it wouldnt be used for learning and sitting there 16h hyperfocused.

IMHO

edit: to explain better. imagine a adhd brain having dopamin swings between -1 and +1. While there are those swings people cant execute their plans and cant focus on one goal. when you give them adderal or similar they get a powerboost to blasting +2 dopamin lvl and can keep that for hours.

so if you give a regular human beeing the same amount of adderall it will blast its brain on +2lvl dopamin also.

so adhd people and regular people behave the samw on adderall.

the thing with adhd it is not a lack of dopamin but an iregular flow of dopamin that is the problem. The solution is to hypercharge the brain with dopamin to get constant lvl.

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