It also makes me wonder if the reason it can't fix some of these issues is because it is working around patent issues.
Pure speculation.
Presumably buried in the woods along with whatever shenanigans went down to award XM17 to Sig over Glock without going through the full predescribed testing in the first place
If the Board is smart, they’ll fire the person before it gets to that point - but if they were smart, they probably wouldn’t have hired the type of person to get them into this mess in the first place.
My guess is it was a perfect storm where the defect rate was low enough to escape their quality control but high enough (or perhaps delayed long enough, meaning it takes years for the defect to appear) to lead to a clear signal after the horse got out of the barn. Enough suits were filed that they perhaps risk bankruptcy if they lose all of them.
That's just my speculation, and seems to be more plausible than some side effect from mental illness.
That was less than a year ago, and well after these issues have been escalating for years.
The co-ordinated gaslighting, projection, denial, etc. are also a clear pattern going back years as well.
The employees clearly being aware there are issues and being afraid to speak up due to internal retaliation, the lawsuits against entities merely trying to protect themselves from preventing people from carrying P320’s into their facilities until this gets figured out, etc. as well.
No one goes to this amount of effort to deny they have a problem (and control others to prevent them from acknowledging there is a problem) without an impetus like that.
I’m not saying the underlying engineering problem is a result of a mental health problem with someone in leadership. Though it likely doesn’t help!
I’m saying the market problem SIG is having (and the serious consequences of it) are due to the mishandled response to a real issue in engineering/manufacturing in a way which stinks clearly to me of NPD.
It’s the doubling down, attacking anyone who notices a real issue, gaslighting everyone, etc.
Hell, when even Brandon Herrera is telling them to fuck off due to the gaslighting?
It’s epic in this case. And NPD folks have a nasty habit of ‘taking down the ship’ as they escalate. It’s damn near the defining consequence that makes it a personality disorder.
Which SIG is definitely heading in that direction.
But hey, it looks like Gun Jesus has an opinion on it too [https://youtu.be/rjEhgXAALL8].
A few months ago I read a story about a woman who worked at sig and was sexually harassed by her boss and was demoted and fired. I can't remember if she was involved (as a witness) in an injury lawsuit about the P320 or what, but reading her story made me remove any possible sympathy I could have for her. Makes me sad I bought my P365 even though it's a great weapon.
*awkward silence*
What a wild, unjustified claim. Not every arrogant fool has NPD. If you want to throw that claim around you best be ready to cite the clinical definition.
Have you seen the press releases and lawsuits? It’s quite literally crazy what they’re doing.
I’ve seen it play out quite clearly before in person.
Why work so hard to continue to avoid the actual issue and clearly present behaviors and facts?
Or do you think such persistent and blatant pathological behavior just happens naturally from otherwise well adjusted executives acting in good faith?
No lawyer or PR person in their right mind would EVER okay that type of response. And with the facts as we know them coming out, those responses were deeply pathological.
You can debate whether they're still "in their right mind" by your preferred definition, but it's increasingly preposterous to say their behavior is evidence of an executive with NPD. This is just not that special, dude. People are just like this.
How many gun companies have had this level of scandal again? The only one I can think of is Taurus in the 80’s.
Doesn’t sound normal at all, actually.
What really amuses me about these kinds of conversations is how invested people are in insisting that when it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, is at the pond with the ducks, and looks like a duck - it totally isn’t a duck, because… I don’t know. They don’t like ducks? Or ducks are boring?
And not the vibes-only version you tried in your first reply. Notably, said clinical definition is not applicable to a company as a whole.