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IOW, they facilitate killing people. Got it.

killing and surveilling

Yea, but with a cool modern spin on it, it's not imperialism it's fighting terrorism!

Still not clear on how murdering the poorest people in the world with the least reach of anyone on the planet with devastating weapons like the R-9X missile, which has been described as a "samurai sword warhead" because it uses bladed protrusions to penetrate and then mangle it's victims, has solved anything. Other than putting loads of money in Palantir and Raytheon's pockets.

I think these days though they just sell political influence since Trumps brand of populism has made war _slightly_ less popular than it was 10 years ago.

Theories:

- Those weapons get field-tested in a real-life (or rather, real-death) scenario. Kids always want to play with their newest toys. The weakest of the weak also have no lobby and no(?) way to fight back.

- “We kill them all before 0.001% of them could become suicide bombers”. Has the additional dubious “benefit” of being merely incompetence, not malice (/s).

> Peter Thiel’s worldview centers on the conviction that Western society faces existential threats from nihilism, progressivism, and the rise of a global totalitarian order, which he believes are leading to decline and could culminate in an apocalyptic collapse. His proposed solution involves a right-wing religious revival rooted in Christianity, combined with technological acceleration and a reimagined political order that prioritizes heroic individuals and hierarchical impulses.

https://www.stephendiehl.com/posts/desconstructing_thiel/

>right-wing religious revival rooted in Christianity, combined with technological acceleration and a reimagined political order that prioritizes heroic individuals and hierarchical impulses

Sounds like a fast path to totalitarianism a la 1930.

Isle of Wight? What's 'IOW', 'inside of war' or something?

in other words

They literally advertise a "AI-powered kill chain". See https://www.palantir.com/platforms/gotham/

b2g software (body to ground)

“Once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down? That’s not my department, says Werner von Braun.”

And facilitated it well. And now US fed law enforcement likely will have it.

It gave them targets but was it correct? Afaik people in LA are targeted by police simply for living in the area of known drug gangs. Guess it's a lot like Israel and Hamas targets.

You should look into how the LA targeting works, and what vendor drove data-driven policing like this. If I recall, it might have been Chicago PD or NYC that dumped Palantir bc the issue you note + cost.

Or just being on the street and appearing Latino:

https://www.google.com/search?q=citizens+abducted+by+ice (See the Guardian story)

I figured this was coming. It'll get really bad if we eliminate birthright citizenship because then you'll have to supply papers proving you're a citizen like your parents' or their parents' birth certificates. Good luck providing those to anyone from a prison in Nicaragua or El Salvador.

The EO only calls for elimination of birthright citizenship on a prospective basis. It would not affect anyone who is currently a citizen. It would simply be marked on your birth certificate if you were a citizen, based on whether your parents are citizens (either one). This is not at all remarkable, and plenty of countries operate this way. The US is somewhat anomalous in granting citizenship to children born to tourists or illegal immigrants, simply because they were in the US when the child was born.

wait so if you give birth as a tourist in the US your kid has to fill out IRS and FBAR forms each year even though they only lived in the US for their first week or whatever?

Yes, unless they renounce. They might also not be able to invest in their home country and things like the sale of their home are taxed by the US. Starting a business or buying an etf are also fraught with peril.

The only other remotely similar country is Eritrea

Not if they never plan to actually live there, I imagine.

You'd still have to apply for a Social Security Card for them to have anything to worry about. That's not automatically granted to babies at birth. The hospital should certify the birth and give you paperwork from something like a state's vital records department but you still have to present that to the SSA. Ostensibly yes they are automatically citizens of the US but they're in a weird spot I would think that you could resolve with a court case if the IRS suddenly came after them for back taxes or something when they were adults. Honestly that sounds like such a ridiculous situation that I can't imagine it's happened.

> It would simply be marked on your birth certificate if you were a citizen, based on whether your parents are citizens (either one).

hmm, perhaps with a gold star, or a pink triangle?

Probably it would just say, like it does in so many other countries. No need for crypto-conspiracy theories since it's a totally normal thing in most of the world.

Do you really think the current admin cares?

They didn't even care that involvement in Iraq was based on lies.

jd vance mentions that very thing multiple times in interviews.

Trump launched MAGA by attacking the Iraq war, and the Bush family.

This is 2008:

“When she first got in and was named speaker, I met her. And I’m very impressed by her. I think she’s a very impressive person. I like her a lot. But I was surprised that she didn’t do more in terms of Bush and going after Bush. It was almost – it just seemed like she was going to really look to impeach Bush and get him out of office, which personally I think would’ve been a wonderful thing,” Trump told Blitzer in the interview.

“Impeaching him?” Blitzer asked.

“Absolutely. For the war. For the war,” said Trump, referring to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. “Well, he lied. He got us into the war with lies, and I mean, look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant and they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense. And yet Bush got us into this horrible war with lies. By lying. By saying they had weapons of mass destruction. By saying all sorts of things that turned out not to be true.”

And in the 2015 Debate attack Jeb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ThZcq1oJQ

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